Random football stuff

The important bit is that Carlitos Vela is triggering Zlatan.
Love to see it.

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I just love how everyone takes the bait. :joy:Zlatan manages this every time.

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Isn’t he the one who took the bait from the reporter?

I highly doubt Zlatan is some crafty troll to think that far

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Yeah that shit is hilarious :joy: Zlatan is hilarious. I’ve just stopped trying to explain it to people who don’t get him lol

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@Ocke and @oompa just want to ascertain if my suspicions are correct and you are both indeed Swedish? :smile:

Interesting that you describe it as people taking the bait, or suggesting that we don’t “get him”, when there isn’t much to get. This isn’t some hugely ironic piece of performance art from him, that requires a sophisticated mind to appreciate. He’s just evidently a cunt by nature, it’s not really all that complicated lol.

I’d be taking the bait if I’d try to explain it after saying I’ve given up on it lol

Nah but it’s something like we have this cultural thing where you don’t brag about shit, it’s a bit special, not the general “don’t be full of yourself” thing, it has more nuances. He came with the Yugoslavian batch in the early 90’s and people hadn’t seen that type of self-confidence expressed too much, we’re protestant as fk, praise hard work and modesty traditionally lol, especially in sports, coaches would pick the player who ran the most over the player with the best technique 100% of the time. Now he had the confidence of a thousand shit kids back when he was young and the talent to back it up, it became a huge divider as he was such a public figure as well in Sweden, I mean he is probably the most famous now-living Swede. As he became an adult he adopted that type of humour as his media personality, people have joked about it here for a couple of decades now. He bought an island in the Sthlm archipelago. He has a verb named after him in the dictionary here lol it’s a bit of a joke, it’s a clever business move and he’s worth fuckloads not just as a footballer but as a brand, due to being that way. He’s playing on Swedish modesty and the point is to take it really far, it’s hard to explain better than that. It cracks me up every time.

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So I shouldn’t call him a cunt because it’s an inside joke?

I mean you don’t have to like it of course. It’s a perpetual divider here in Sweden as well (even though I think most people here get him by now). Just get that his thing is to always say shit like this, it’s making him millions of monnies and many think it is hilarious. Does he think he is better than most players? probably, so do probably most really good players, they just don’t say it out loud because it’s culturally seen as this and that, he enjoys trolling that very perception with people. His confidence made him probably the first player to get through the Swedish footballing school without being a disciplined hard-working stereotype, and he uses that perception of him being ridiculously over-confident to play on how uncomfortable people get when he expresses it really excessively. It’s a type of humour that maybe is easier to get if you had the Swedish modesty thing hammered into your backbone, I don’t know lol

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I get his humour. It’s not unique.
Anyone can do that but good on him that he can pull it off by backing it on pitch.

It just isn’t that hard of a humour.
It would be hard if you maintain that grandeur without having to be a cunt & bring someone down like he did with Vela.
If he had to bring someone down, the target should be the guy interviewing him.

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@oompa Very well explained, spot on. And long as you see Zlatan smile after his interviews, you know he’s not being dead serious.

Yeah yeah we’ve seen that look a thousand times now… Also the way he instantly goes “by far.” like it’s an undoubtable fact lol so non-swedish not leaving it up for debate at all.

But yeah Trion part of it is to not care at all, he dishes in all directions.

Yeah but I doubt Vela takes it that serious though, he knows it’s his thing. He used to bring down Maxwell too and they are best friends.

So he’s basically playing a character? It’s like the folks in professional wrestling who play the heels. They do all this outlandish stuff because it gets people talking about them but they aren’t actually that person in their private life.

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Yeah definitely something like that. I mean he is naturally a confident person but yeah, maybe a bit like WWE guys. And with a persona like that you are all in, you can’t just start being all humble and shit yet, maybe when he gets older. I would guess Americans would see the fun in it a bit more, it seems to be a bit more common to act it out your confidence like that in America. So I guess that’s why he had to go bigger than usual and buy a whole page in the LA times that just said “dear Los Angeles, You’re Welcome” when he moved there. I laughed when I saw it but I get that people just shake their heads at it as well lol

Jus to name one example he is close friends with some of the most humble athletes we’ve ever produced here, such as Henrik Larsson and hockey player Peter Forsberg, the types that definitely are on the opposite end of the spectrum. maybe it doesn’t say anything to other people but it’s a tell for us here lol

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What the fuck? He is just trash talking. More isn’t too it lol :joy:. I highly doubt Zlatan has thought that deep about it that is he ‘mocking’ the culture he grew up in.

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I like how I go through a long explanation that this is culturally rooted where I’m from and another guy who is also from the same country goes yes spot on and you go: no.

lol

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But trash talking goes hand in hand with sports. Especially for him since I think he grew up in ‘lesser’ neighborhoods. That shit is normal, whilst playing football with your mates etc. I think this explanation of it being rooted in culture is just waaaaaay overboard. You act like Zlatan invented some sort of wheel.

Then I think you missed the point of it :slight_smile:

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Looool. It’s always this when ‘flaws’ are pointed out in someone’s argument. ‘You missed the point’. Nah mate. Your point is just rubbish. Or you aren’t used to anything.