Video technology (VAR) in football

English Football
#742

Aha, it’s human error. Well we aren’t gonna get better refs or errorless humans in the near future so it’s basically the same as before, when we didn’t have VAR :man_shrugging:

I’m all for using VAR in red card or penalty situations. But this millimetre measuring has to stop, because it’s not consistent. One could argue that 2 minutes before that offside, there was a offside that the ref didn’t give. If they had measured that one just as closely, then this situation shouldn’t have happened in the first place. Because 2 minutes before, a Liverpool player was offside.

If it’s so damn close that you have to bring out the measuring tools, then don’t give it ffs and let the game keep its flow. Did the Everton players even protest before the decision to consult VAR?

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#743

I think Pickford getting away with the tackle on VVD was worse than the offside decision.

#744

We need AI to determine offside. If we want to be anal about millimeter then we better have an AI making consistent, accurate calls in matter of milliseconds

#745

Any evidence to suggest AI can do that?

#746

No im sick of arguing this your changing the rules to accommodate VAR. The elephant in the room is the new toy.

#747

Doesn’t change the reality that VAR is just a monitoring system, which is only as good as the rules it’s there to monitor.

It does make for a good scapegoat though, so those making the rules get away scot free.

#748

Easy to ignore these rules didn’t exist before VAR. Go figure.

#749

Pretty sure offside existed before VAR.

#750

Not a direct one but we already have an entire supply chain warehouse working purely on AI, airline industry making trajectory adjustments on the fly using AI, computer vision to detect minute defects.

We have self driving cars which can monitor the surface consistency and detect potholes or any possible deviation in infront car path & avoid accidents.

We have enough evidence of proficiency of AI in various fields to say for sure AI can utilize the line being currently drawn and make more accurate calls than a human in much quicker period.

#751

Easy to ignore the proportion of good calls VAR has made compared to what it was previously.
Whatever issues we have with VAR is completely down to people in charge making idiotic rules like the handball one.

I can’t get my head around people who want to have the stupid reliance on on field ref back. That is just asking for going back to typewriter because the computer showed them an occasional pop up.

#752

You mean like the majority of world football play.

#753

Yes majority of world football is dumb

#754

VAR is a joke lmao I mean we always had wrong calls but at least we didn’t have to wait around for the bad decisions to be made…

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#755

VAR VAR VAR

#756

It saved us today, but that doesn’t mean it was the right call. If that went against us we’d all be mad. That’s a terrible call, nobody was impeding Leno whatsoever. Great goal taken away for no good reason. Sport is being ruined.

#757

I think technically he is impacting Leno’s view and in an offside position, but he was never going to save it anyways.

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#758

Rules are rules.
An offside player was impeding the keeper’s view at the time the shot was taken.

Whether the shot was savable or not is beyond the scope of rules and thereby irrelevant.

It was a perfect call and exactly why VAR was needed because this call would not have been taken otherwise.

#759

I think the fact that he was impeding the keepers view could be argued, and besides that’s kinda besides the point that the game is supposed to be beautiful and an art instead of a science.

#760

Well you did get to witness the art

#761

They shouldn’t have so many rules then. But they do.

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