US Police and Black People

Don’t waste your energy with @mhappy . You can detail his stance on anything just based on what typical rightwing drones believe.

Racism is just a product of liberal elites that don’t really care about the plight of black people

Black people don’t really have a plight and they’re just victims of the narrative pushed by white liberals

Feminism is makes no sense since it’s actually men who are oppressed and exploited (especially white men)

Things like free healthcare is socialism which is evil and will put lazy people on equal footing with non-lazy people. What we need is to double down on rugged individualism i.e. capitalism.

Amaright?

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I just can’t stand the “what about knives!!!” argument.

Knives are an essential item in every day life, it would be incredibly impractical to try and limit the sale of knives beyond rules that already exist about only selling them to adults.

Its not like you need a gun to dice a fucking onion though, is it?

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But @JakeyBoy what about shoes!? Shoes can be thrown at people withe deadly force or shoe strings can be used to choke people to death.

If we ban guns we’ll have to ban shoes also and before you know it we’ll all have to live inside a nerf bubble where we can’t hurt ourselves or others.

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Probably gets all his news from Infowars. Muting him and his brother was a smart move.

I really hate ‘whataboutism’ in a discussion. 9 outa 10 it’s the card you play when there’s no arguments left.

You are missing the point completely; violent people will always find ways to harm a person, the tool that is used doesn’t change it outcome.

A gun doesn’t kill people people do, same as a knife doesn’t stab people the person using it does.

Enacting gun control lead to the rise in knife crime in England and most places with tough gun control. Guns aren’t the problem human nature is.

Well tell that to the London Bridge terrorist :man_facepalming:t5:.
Let’s Ignore the fact that guns aren’t typically used in large scale acts of criminality.

Very true.

I do, however, shudder at the thought of every household in England being able to have a gun.

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I can believe people don’t understand the concept of “people are violent guns and knives are the tools of which they enact that violence”. Knives and guns were not what aboutism but evidence of “if you limit guns violent people will find another way to enact they violence” it’s pretty simple. America’s problems are not legal guns hence 82 shootings in 40 years compared to Chicago 15 in one weekend due to illegal guns. Criminals and violent people will always find away.

How come they have not found a way in other countries?

What part of gun having greater & faster propensity to kill compared to a knife do you not understand?

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Are you telling me in India no one is ever stabbed, robbed, drowned, clubbed/beaten, rapped and killed?

We have not had a school shooting where we lost 8-15 kids.
I am even confident in saying that it has ‘never’ happened.

No human nature isn’t the problem it’s all nature that’s the problem, NO it’s the nature of the chemicals in nature that are the problem, NO it’s the nature of atomic compounds that is the problem, NO it’s the nature of the fucking dimension we exist in that is the problem…fucking imbecile. You probably think a donkey and a Ferrari are essentially the same thing.

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You did not answer my question

With that argument we should legalise all drugs, because people always find a way. Why not legalise murder? Because people always find a way…

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Say that again with a straight face.

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We do have stabbing, robbing, drowning, clubbing, beating, rapping and killing.

How does that change the fact that those culprits would do much greater damage with a gun?

Guns don’t kill people. Rappers do.

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The gun by itself doesn’t go out the to harm people the person does. You limit that the person finds another way we need to find away to stem the flow of illegal guns