Fascism is a right wing political ideology often defined by ethno-nationalist attitudes, authoritarian government and economic oligarchy.
Mussolini, Franco, Hirohito, Hitler 
classic self avowed fascists.
You all clearly know little on the subject.
He was a nationalist socialist. Aligned himself with fascism in some aspects, yes. But national socialism is on the left side of the economic spectrum.
Mussolini and Franco were proper fascist.
The point still stands regarding antifa having similarities to fascism. On the authoritarian, intimidation, violence spectrum.
You are right that fascism cannot exist without authoritarianism, as fascism is authoritarian in its very nature. But you can absolutely be authoritarian in nature without being fascist, as is the case with communism, which is inherently authoritarian but diametrically opposed to fascism.
You are right that ultranationalism is a key tenet of fascism that is missing in antifa, but you are wrong to say it’s the only one.
Fascism is also defined by a strong leaning towards tradition, and a return to a better, more pure time in the past. This is not a feature of antifa, who if anything have a desire to upend previous values and social structures in the name of what they see as progress. I think it’s fair to say that people in antifa reject tradition, if anything.
Corporatism is usually a feature of fascism, and is based on the belief that social classes do not conflict with one another, but can exist in harmony for the benefit of the greater good and national interest. People in antifa are definitely far more likely to take a more socialist perspective on this, recognising the antagonism between different social classes and the subjugation of those in lower social classes at the hands of big business, or the bourgeoisie, to use the socialist terminology.
Hitler said “victory is to the strong and the weak must go to the wall”, because a core trait of fascism is social darwinism, the belief that the disabled, weak or morally degenerate are a poison to the health of the nation or group. Again, this is absolutely not a trait that antifa members would share. Fascists forcibly sterilised the mentally and physically handicapped, and members of certain ethnic or religious groups, in the name of protecting the nation. People in antifa dont go in for this kind of eugenics, they’ll typically reject social darwinism and believe that “the weak” should be protected by the rest of society, not exterminated. Fascists also have a big issue with sexual degeneracy, as they’d call it, and would persecute these groups, possibly to the extent of systematically murdering them if “lesser” discriminatory measures didn’t do the trick. People in Antifa very strongly reject this, and in fact go out of their way to strongly advocate for the support of queer and trans people.
I could spend more time talking about how the comparisons between fascists and antifa in terms of an obsession about race is facile, but I think I’ve already done enough to demonstrate that antifa clearly is not fascist, because it misses many of the defining characteristics (not just one). Besides, while I am off work, I really should make an effort to get some shit done today lol, as much as I enjoy a good political discussion.
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Clearly you don’t. Fascism is a socialist movement they believe that Marx was wrong about how capital worked, and believed that it was useful for people (hence government controlled markets)
All these people followed the tenant of Marx, all of them were left wing except Franco. Hitler, Mussolini and Starlin used to send letters to each congratulating each other on implementing socialist state.
You once said that Marx was pro-slavery, so forgive me if I dont put much stock in your understanding of socialism or Marxism.
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Wrong brother bro, and do understand Marx very well enough to know his opinions are antiquated and has a lack of understanding of the human psyche, or factor human development.
Correct brother, bro
Maybe you’re actually the same person and you’re forgetting which account you posted from 
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Close enough we look the same 
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Ahh yes that was from the letters he sent to his friend in America regarding slavery
Lol we been through this better you listen to @JakeyBoy about this one
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Yes, and if you wanna revisit that thread you can re-read me explaining your fundamental misreading of those letters.
Anyone with a halfway decent understanding of Marx would understand how his political philosophy is completely opposed to slavery.
Once you read the whole thing he does not endorse it
Actually no it’s does not the full letter actually endorse
Anyway, to conclude with my core point, you can absoluetly criticise antifa and I dont mind at all. It’s just inaccurate, unnecessary and ultimately unhelpful to label them fascist. I really don’t have much more to add beyond that and my fairly lengthy post from earlier.
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Marx was just bad with money and lazy
This is absolutely true, the bastard sponged off Engels his entire life haha
Just because you support a group doesn’t change the fact they act like fascist 
I’m out back to playing db legends not wasting my time on waste of spaces like antifa
I went to the effort of making a fairly substantial post in response to the idea that they are fascist and this is the best you got? Either engage with some parts of the lengthy post and offer some considered retorts to the points made, or just let it lie lol.
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My bad just read it good take 
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