The State of The Arsenal

This team definitely won’t. Not this squad of 25.

We need a striker & wingers then we can talk about winning titles.

Lol.

We are still better than we’ve been for 15 years, do so many of the fundamentals right, but just lack that killer instinct ruthlessness to ultimately make the difference.

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Agreed. If we have this squad still in 20 years we won’t win the league.

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That Arsenal losing stigma culture also has to be removed, but I suppose that doesn’t happen until you finally win it.

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It really does.

The fact that we keep topping the league table at Christmas, spend the most days at the top, most points won etc but never get it over the line is very concerning.

Tbh, the fact that Wenger only won the title 3 times in 22 years is pretty sad too tbh. Deserved at least 7 with the squads he built, but the mentality just isn’t there.

It’s part of the culture for sure imo.

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I thought I was the weird one in here @SuperArsenal1886 but you’re an even a wilder cat than me. :rofl:

whoa whoa lets not go too far here :henry2:

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Yeah I really Cba reading your knee jerk bullshit after every game lol

It’s a shit loss and I don’t think we are favourites but this sort of take is just not really true. City lost to Brentford at home last season for example. It was a shit loss which can happen over 38 games.

The overall body of work of City and ourselves is a better indicator.

I think people just need to stop with this “you lose this one game in the start/middle of the season and the title is done” logic in general.

It’s been proven to be nonsense so many times. It especially has been highlighted in recent years.

City, Liverpool and even dark horses like Villa and Spurs have lost points where they least expect it.

City went on a rare winless streak and they’re still very close to the top. Spurs the same and they’re still somewhat close.

Ultimately, I think it boils down to the complex Arsenal fans have with winning the PL after so long so there’s this expectation that the only way we can win it is by essentially opening the gap so big that when “choke” in the end we will remain top.

There is no stealing the title from City(and probably Liverpool). The talking will be done at the business end of the season. If we’re scared to partake in that we simply won’t win shit. Neither the PL nor the CL.

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Issue is

City dropped 5 points at home all last season, we’ve already dropped 7.

I think we need to be pretty much perfect at home from here on, you know you’ll drop your fair share on your travels.

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This is true, and I put myself predominantly in this category. I don’t trust us with an 8-point gap because history has shown we simply can’t cut the mustard.

If we have a 12 point gap with same games played, then I’d be on board.

As it stands, we can’t score from open play. Our top goal scorer is so bad he doesn’t even start games. And we’re meant to be title contenders?

I don’t think.

We are still ahead of them

Have such a shit feeling on our injured players…

Ok, some of you guys don’t like Kai as #8.
Then we tried Trossard there and not good.

Supposed ESR could have some playing time there (or cover Ode) but God knows when he is 100% fit.

We could try Rice there but Partey is also a crook and we can rely Jorginho to play/start too much.
Elneny another crook.

Time to get some real man.
Availability bigger than talent.

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Personally, I’m happy with Kai there as it stands. Will see how the rest of the season goes but I’d prefer additions up front or depth options before worrying about the starting 8 role.

Interesting to see how things turn out recently.

Don’t want to compare us to City cause we can’t do what they did in the final quarter of last season.

That’s cause the so called contenders (Liverpool, Us, Villa) failed to take advantage, and that is the whole point here. Once they kick into gear, which history suggests they will, it’ll be over for us.

You know how Liverpool won the title in 2019-20 right? The two times they got into a dog fight with City, they lost by 1 point so that suggests, getting into a scrap with them at the business end of the season will probably not end in our favour.

In the end, every title winning team will have shit games in a season, which is why the Invincibles is such a great achievement. But our shit games are starting to show a pattern. We dominate games, create chances, don’t finish them, concede a shit goal or two and that’s that.

Ffs

https://twitter.com/OsmanZtheGooner/status/1740670894094360974

The game against West Ham proved that we can make plenty of chances, but against well organised defences, we struggle to score.

I’ve just looked at the odds for the PL top scorer this season and Jesus is twentieth, which for a striker playing for one of the most attacking teams in Europe, shows a proven goal scorer is what we lack.

How many high balls were put in the box that were cleared easily, or our players missed headers?
With the supply we’ve got, any decent striker who’s good in the air would have scored and it’s why Arteta is looking to get a top quality striker.

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Scoring less, conceding more.

I think this is just our level, last season was an outlier and not normal.

Signing Jesus should’ve been seen as a stop gap, not as an answer to replacing Aubameyang/Lacazette.

I remember when we were interested in signing him, I was very critical (predictably so), as his scoring record for City was just as horrific. He’s not a goal scorer, he’s more of an old school Cassano — an SS if you will, not your main man.

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