The randomly nothing thread

Roy Keane on the overlap is one of my favourite people.

https://x.com/wearetheoverlap/status/1807338439529971737?s=46&t=LlMNFvsPPy2ozwuX8FhQrA

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Brits abroad are a special thing. The guy in the allocated lounger next to me has absolutely no shame demolishing his full English breakfast, McDonald’s, poolside hot dog and ice cream and 10 beers a day. This bit is rich coming from me as we all enjoy an indulgent holiday, however the bit that kills me is he’s with his whole family and chats to his kids casually effing and blinding about everything in a tone as if they’re on the other side of the pool to him. :joy:

Do you know this guy @RockyMaivia ?

Been randomly recommended this stuff on YouTube and now been watching all his videos

Loving the way Jamaicans can and are willing to talk about anything lol

https://youtube.com/shorts/sh2DWuWxNzA?si=z_8ny9S5HXJQlZ1A

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I’ve actually seen this guy via my nephew.

This content is so annoying lol, Jamaicans don’t really lay patois this thick unless your drunk. The Jamaican side of my family is large and all rural farmland Christian churchgoers or Rastas and none of them speak like this (Except one of my Aunts but that’s usually cause she’s angry about something :joy:).

Obviously it’s main selling point of content is a white guy speaking patois but if you notice the Jamaicans don’t really show any shock or surprise. This only really surprises foreigners (Mainly the West). White Jamaicans has been around since the country’s independence and went through the same assimilation the other races did.

Jamaican has had 2 White Jamaican PM’s.

They definitely love to converse, it’s a very social country embedded into it’s culture. Very traditional.

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Yeah that’s his main game I guess is to surprise a western audience who only knows the stereotype. Pretty funny and interesting to watch for me though, the way these encounters go is so chilled :sweat_smile:

I once was for work in Jamaica, but it was in Montego Bay and we hardly got off the resort. Which is a pity as I heard some good stories.

Apparently there is also an entire Japanese contingent on Jamaica and mixed with the culture and speak patois?

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For a tourist Montego Bay is the ā€˜safe’ option. It’s difficult to explain but the rural experience is amazing and authentic, but kind of difficult without local knowledge.

There’s is some controversy though especially with Montego Bay, I do believe they recommend you don’t leave resorts (and that they’re aren’t liable if something happens)?

The relationship with those places and the country is a bit toxic. Jamaicans don’t actually have right to access their own beaches. Private beaches are rampant. It’s ridiculous the (corrupt) government hasn’t overturned this like Barbados did.

Absolutely, the numbers won’t be large though compared to Chinese-Jamaicans (Mainly Hakka, but some Han) or East Indian-Jamaicans, you can find traces of many ethnic groups. Syrians, Lebanese, Hispanics (Central Americans, Caribbeans), Europeans (German, Irish). Emphasis on trace as many of them will be mixed due to assimilation.

Most of these people came in the 19th Century when Slavery ended. This resulted Our British masters deciding the next best thing was cheap imported labour with very little rights (Indentured servants).

For example, my great grandfather isn’t from Jamaica but is from Panama.

There was a Japanese-Jamaican footballer out of interest btw, Musashi Suzuki.

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Yeah we were told best not to venture out away from the resort, although once we went to a nearby town and I loved it.

I was on a job assignment there so didn’t have much liberty to do as I wanted, but a friend of mine actually did an exchange or an internship (can’t remember) in Kingston for 6 months and he really liked it.

It really sucks that beaches are privatized and that the government allows this kind of shit. Beaches should always be accessible for everyone and especially the locals.

I never knew there is such extensive mixing of ethnicities and cultures in Jamaica. But it now makes sense. Definitely a very interesting island with a rich heritage and culture and I think many (white) people overlook the diversity of Jamaica.

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It’s fascinating honestly, although for accuracy sake. It’s more fair to say there’s one culture: Jamaican (With a lot of Christianity). Chinese and Indians Jamaicans are very far removed from their origins. Not all the Chinese even speak Chinese, more likely to hear them speak patois/english to each other.

It’s an insight into how you can create cohesive society with different people (Given the country is poor and yet there isn’t social tensions apart from gang crime. Kind of impressive tbh), although assimilation is a bit more controversial given the West (is trying at least) to practice multi-culturalism. Which Jamaica really isn’t.

As the Jamaican motto goes: ā€œOut of many, one peopleā€

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Basically Jamaica is a successful melting pot of different peoples into ā€œoneā€. Isn’t that the essence of ā€œequalityā€ as far as race goes. Doesn’t matter black, white, chinese or indian - all Jamaican.

The U.S. which is race obsessed should take note…

There is race classification in Jamaica (for census purposes among other things) but in the grand scheme it doesn’t factor into much of anything. It should be said most Caribbean countries are like this. There are some racism issues (Like bleaching) but it’s not as absurd as what you would say, see in the U.S.

The Caribbean is a bit of an outlier (and lucky), the British pretty much left and the colonial laws weren’t as absurd (relatively) as say; South Africa (Segregation existed before independence). Although the British economically pilfered the country anyway soo…traded one problem for another.

To what extent is there actually racism in Jamaica? And do whites have certain privileges like they do in the US / West or is it really ā€œequalā€ as far as it can be?

This is a bit complicated. Depends how you define privilege in this context.

I’d say you could gain privileges if you have money, so theoretically a foreigner and businesses could get special privileges (bribes) when it comes to bypassing government procedures (Which does happen) or laws among other things. Or like the beach example, I would consider that a privilege, but it’s not really drawn on racial lines (although many of the owners are most likely white).

In terms of actual society, not really. The constitution forbids it. But also for starters in a hypothetical scenario the Whites don’t even have the numbers to do something like that and not only is Jamaica majority black, some of it’s heroes are big on civil rights. It simply wouldn’t be tolerated by the citizens.

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I made this post back in 2021.
He had another paralytic attack in October 2023.

We thought his days were numbered because he couldn’t get rid of smoking before that.
Something turned in his head this time, and he completely gave up on smoking.

He went cold on smoking from day 1. No cheat smoke here and there. Just complete abandonment of decades of smoking habit.
This is month 8.

Anyone with a smoking habit…Just go cold turkey.

Given the news lately of airline passengers being injured in incidents of turbulence, does anyone think airlines will introduce mandatory seatbelt use, as with cars? Word is that with climate change, turbulence is going to become more commonplace. I don’t think airlines are going to want lawsuits from injured travellers. Thoughts?

I’ve only flown with British Airways, they have a seatbelt symbol which indicates whether you must have your seatbelt on or not. Or you mean indefinitely?

Yep, compulsory upon boarding and for the duration of the flight, except for loo visits. You’ll get some angry opposition to it, no doubt. But it’s the airline’s plane and they’d call the shots.

Lol is wearing a seatbelt such an issue for people? I usually put mine on at the start of the flight and only take it off to go toilet and it’s never a problem for me.

If anything, we just let people not wear them and natural selection can do it’s thing.

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You mirror me exactly. But you know, there’s always a few cunts will go on about their freedom being impinged upon. Yup, let ā€˜em crush their bone heads on the ceiling.

The seatbelt aren’t uncomfortable to put on either, so I put mine on for the entire flight (except for the toilet). Have seen too many Air crash investigation episodes to take a chance on such a simple thing :joy:

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I don’t even feel it on me after a few minutes.

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