The randomly nothing thread

Living the dream to steal cars?

The rock replying to soccer am :joy:

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Anytime I see the just eat advert with snoop dog I remember he says Menulog in Australia and a little of me dies inside

In all my years watching Soccer Saturday I didn’t have him down as a stupid conspiracy theorist.

Can see why sky sacked him last year now

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Again people are losing their job for having an opinion.
An opinion that is not related to his job.

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Nah. When you work for a company your views are indirectly representatives of brands that employ you / sponsor you etc etc.

If your views don’t align with that of the company you work for or the brand that sponsors you - they are well within their rights to terminate your employment / sponsorship deal.

This guys been spouting conspiracy theory nonsense on social media for a while now and it’s catching up with him.

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He quit mate, wasn’t fired, his choice. Cancelled himself, if you will.

Also, you work for a large public facing organisation then you may be held accountable for your public proclamations, especially when you are inextricably linked with your employer in the public’s eye, like Le Tissier is with Southampton. What he says and does will affect the club’s reputation to an extent, no two ways about it.

Also, take into account the nature of his role. He was an Ambassador, that literally means you are a representative of the club in the public eye. That role in particular is one thats so heavily PR focused that opinions of yours may make your position untenable.

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Is this thought process restricted to a public-facing job profile or should it be extended to everyone?

We could stick to Matt Le Tissier if you had a response to the specific case at hand?

Since he was playing a role of an ambassador (& since I didn’t know about his conspiracy theory tendencies as SJRCJ pointed), I guess it’s fair.

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It does apply to everyone. A lot of people likely don’t read their entire contract when they start a job, but there will most likely be something about your character while working for said company. There have been many a story of people sacked due to their comments on Twitter.

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He also quit rather than being fired. But fair play for your reply, I will reciprocate in that case…

As Phoebica rightly says, the same actually does apply to a large number of us normies who arent ambassadors or necessarily public facing. But generally speaking, no, I wouldnt want to see, for example, Forever get fired for questioning media narratives around the Russia conflict (I bring this up as it actually feels remarkably similar to this specific case lol)

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Tend to agree, I don’t like the idea of employers making subjective judgments on speech not made whilst on the job (regardless of the role) or speech that doesn’t rise to a criminal offence.

But he resigned in this case, there doesn’t appear to be any internal pressure that made him do that. If he doesn’t want people sending strays to his club that’s his business

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Agree with the last few posts.
We need to secure individual freedom for those who have not taken a public-facing job.

Reasonable post, but I did wanna question one bit

If your role is to be a public face of an organisation and to represent them publicly, do you not think that your ability to do that to the full satisfaction of your employers is compromised if you are out there talking mad shit?

In his case, or the case of someone in a similar role, I think going wild on twitter actually does directly impact your efficacy in your role.

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He’s been saying nonsense about covid for two years lol. He’s a clown who doesn’t deserve an ambassadorial role. He’s ruined his playing legacy aswell for being a clown on twitter

I get the question but Le Tissier is still entitled to free speech, however delusional it may be and he’s entitled to amplify it on his own platforms on SM. As we all are

His job isn’t to represent his employer 24/7 in conduct or public speech. As an ambassador his role will have clearly defined tasks/responsibilities where his conduct will have to be in line with the employer. Outside of that, it’s not really appropriate for commercial driven entities to judge what people can say, imo

For public-facing roles most people understand how the sausage is made and will minimize their own views in compliance, then again most people need the gig and won’t rock the boat.

Depends on what the role requires tbh, he doesn’t work for Southhampton because of his political views and the club doesn’t engage in politics. I’m sure what he does exactly but I assume it relates to his playing days and sporting connection with the club?

I can agree with the first part quoted as a general statement, and we can both agree that his free speech hasnt been impinged upon at all?

They’re directly involving the club with the very issue Le Tissier has just spoken out on, and not in a way that’s aligned.

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