The NHS

“I believe you get what you pay (for)”

So only people who can afford good healthcare should be entitled to it and if they can’t afford it they get shit healthcare because it’s their fault that they’re poor?

You aren’t entitled to another persons labor. Sorry. Down that road lies communism and we know where that ends… millions upon millions of dead bodies in mass graves

I sympathize with the poor and destitute and believe that charities and churches, strong extended family etc should be there to help them out. Its an indictment of society.

Heres a thought, let people keep vastly more of what they make by cutting taxes down to maybe 5% or less, promote healthy families, reduce the size of the government and the resulting waste, grift and corruption. Dismantle the pharma/medical cartel, and lets see what a truly free market woudl do for the health of the populace.

Do that and you wont need an NHS. If the government is in favor of something… whatever it is, Do Not support it. The government only does what is good for the government. Only a fool believes that the long term goals of a government program will benefit the citizenry.

Just look at the NHS… it started as affordable healthcare for all… Look at it now… pretty soon they will be pushing medical assistance to kill yourself like Canadas NHS is doing.

Don’t fall for it.

Quite impressive to have kept it under wraps that you’re a complete nutcase for so long.

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I was thinking the same :rofl::rofl:

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I can see why you are considering voting Reform. Are you standing for them as well?

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And here we go with the name calling… we are talking about the NHS here… It’s falling apart. Are any of you medical doctors or nurses? Do you volunteer at hospitals and care homes? I suggest doing it for a year and then see where you stand on the topic.

Honestly can’t believe anybody supports pol pot , mao and Stalin’s policies in this age ( your famous communists) … I’m actually quite shocked. But yet here we are…

Calling me a nutcase because I oppose the murder of innocents is baffling. But then again name calling only occurs when you don’t have a compelling argument because the facts are clearly against you.

Over 100million people have been murdered by communism in the last 100 years… Why do you guys still support it? I’m truly curious.

???

And you do definitely care about the poor so much that you keep voting in people that make the poor poorer and their lives harder.

Maybe stop helping lol.

I think slavery is disgusting, You obviously disagree.

I think the majority of the world agrees with me but I’m open to hearing why you support it.

Been waiting years for someone to call @JakeyBoy out on his support of slavery. :rofl:

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I just want an option that is not Tory or Labor… why am I being pilloried for this?

For someone who suggests others go away and do some reading and some research, perhaps you should take your own advice and go away and look into the history of the NHS and how it was formed :+1:

You may also want to have a look at the difference between Communism and Socialism - they are not the same things!

As for the NHS, without making a political point, but a factual one, in 2010 the NHS had its highest ever approval ratings and it had the lowest waiting lists. Acknowledge that we have had the pandemic, but the reasons for the current issues in the NHS are not ideological because the past has proved that the model works. And then there is the whole separate issue of social care which does directly impact upon the NHS and needs to be addressed.

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At the end of the day it is your democratic choice who to vote for, or not to vote as the case may be…if the reports about their racist and dodgy candidates don’t bother you, and if you think Farage, based on his track record and the things he says, is the person to lead this country forward and you have read their manifesto and think it represents some good ideas, then crack on and vote Reform :+1:

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Mate not having a go, but maybe evoking Pol Pot, Mao, Stalin then accusing people on here of supporting Communism (You didn’t name anybody btw or provide evidence) is not a great way to go about things if you don’t desire this type of ridicule?

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This is the issue with making assumptions. I’ve never voted for someone who went on to win, become an MP and vote on legislation.

So tell me more about how I am voting in people who make life harder and harder for poor people.

The Black Book of Communism is total agenda driven nonsense, appalling history. If you applied the same flawed methodology to an analysis of capitalism you could come up with a figure in excess of 100m without breaking a sweat.

And before you accuse me of being a communist, I’m not. I’m just not a fan of agenda driven, dishonest history.

This is a bit embarrassing mate. You cry about name calling, but I’d much rather someone called me a nutcase than a supporter of slavery. Give your head a wobble ffs.

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Had to laugh. If you think Farage is your best option just google the names Preston Manning and Ezra Levant, the two Alberta reform nutters that Farage admits studying and admiring. Be careful what you wish for.

Those aforementioned cunts founded the Alberta Reform Party which lasted for five minutes in a Province that had a Conservative government in power for 45 years.

Big news came this weekend as the corrupt scumbags that want to fuck over your healthcare access have made themselves known.

A Dark Money Junk tank, the IEA. And an incompetent silver spoon hereditary peer who ‘lost’ some messages relating to dodgy PPE in COVID.

https://x.com/ExplosiveEnema2/status/1804584980523225171?t=5CdF18Smwca6qFroSkka1g&s=19

https://x.com/dr_ianjackson/status/1804915379065544713?t=npMJbGF0pq30n1dIA1vyxQ&s=19

Goddamn these dirty Muslims starting their FGM shite here!!!

https://x.com/not_a_ft/status/1809962878180417785?s=46

Oh wait, it’s actually neoliberals and it’s called ‘revitalisation’ carried out by unqualified quacks!

At least in Egypt the FGM is done by qualified people, in Britain it seems your man of the street can have a go at that and much more!

Read the full thread and never be okay with seeing a PA for your first consultation about an issue!

Thought FGM was against the law here?

https://x.com/shaunlintern/status/1843282213036851327?s=46

Hilarious. Same old same old

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