Well, to date, Starmer hasn’t deviated in any of the six areas that I identified above, so I guess we will wait and see!
There is a big difference from being in Government to being in opposition. I can only see the Government doubling down on their course of action.
Assuming you mean win a majority, let’s have a little bet and settle up in 2029. £30 quid says Starmer doesn’t win a majority (I’d suggest you also need to pay up if he isn’t leader for the next GE)
You see this is why I respect and like you! At least you have the balls to substantiate your views.
Your proposition is intriguing although you do seem to be having two bites at the cherry…firstly, it is generally accepted that the party that wins the most seats at a General Election, wins the General Election, although there are circumstances where they would not form the next Government. Secondly, you also want to bet on Stamer being the leader into the next election.
In principle, I am happy to put my money where my mouth is and have a bet with you, but you are stacking the odds in your favour with your proposition.
The way I see it, what I was essentially wanting to bet on was Starmer not getting a majority, so to me, if he doesn’t even make it to the next election as leader, he hasn’t won a majority, and the part I quoted from your post was totally wrong on both counts. So it didn’t seem unfair to me or like I was stacking the odds, because if you’re boldly stating that he’ll win the election, you must think him being leader at the next GE is a pretty sure thing (you say as much)
But if you didn’t even mean a majority necessarily, just the most seats, then things are a bit different. But that’s why I wanted to clarify what you you were predicting when you spoke about Labour winning the next election.
Happy to work with you on terms of the bet.
Its funny because the internal spin is " we’ve had to make hard decisions but people should love most of what we’re doing but we’re not getting sufficient credit for it because of the Trumpian political environment and right wing press"
Think there’s some truth to that tbh given that they’ve been in power for less than year.
What political capital did they garner for public sector pay raises, free breakfast clubs or minimum wage increases? These things are left wing, make instant inpact in prople daily lives and overwhelming benefit working class people and address problems that were festering under the Tories.
“Deliverism” is acceptable hill to stand on but it depends on the priorities of key parts of the electorate. Rightly or wrongly its seems like small boats and migration is the focus, Its why the idea of replacing KS and moving further left is silly.
I have major doubts but let see the impact border security bill in by the end of this parliament, I doubt itll be enough. i think we’re at the stage alot of red wall voters want a drastic reduction in migration.
I don’t know if the idea is being ascribed to me or is a general point. Obviously I would personally like a more left wing leader of our government (I’ve wanted that since becoming at all politically aware as a teenager lol), but I’m not suggesting that that’s gonna happen, because I don’t for a second think it will.
Its a general point about some shout from the back benches*
Good to see she’s not bitter about being sacked 
Meanwhile, this guy was clearly inspired by @Cristo’s posts 
Labour have ignored far more than just immigration concerns for too long. They’re not going to undo their imagine as opportunistic flip floppers who couldn’t care less about voters priorities now.
Reform have something that neither mainstream party has had in years and that’s that they’ve captured people’s imaginations. They are the right wing equivalent of what happened with Corbyn on the left years ago and got people excited about believing in something political and that is a powerful thing.
The difference I think is that Britain is fundamentally quite a right wing / centre right country and Reform have more of a chance of national success than Corbyn did.
I don’t think its fair to say Corbyn is the left wing equivalent of Farage. The BBC couldn’t hide its disdain for Corbyn and allowed lies about the man propagated by MPs and even the PM. Essentially branding him a terrorist.
Whereas Farage gets his ugly wonky face on the BBC every week and never gets any push-back on the utter bollocks that comes out of those teeth that look like a washing line of badly hung kippers.
The fucking tosser, think of all those useful human organs he could have given out if he hadn’t walked away from that helicopter crash, could have been his only useful contribution to society.
Wonder what Starmer’s given them?
Access to the NHS from a “Labour” PM perhaps? Chlorinated chicken perhaps?
It won’t be comprehensive FTA, rather a skinny economic deal but its still excellent work by Starmer and Reynolds in the current climate that will benefit the UK immensely.
Another win for Brexit Blighty !
So what were the other Brexit wins again? And I mean things that have occurred and there are actual outcomes, results, evidence and data to back it up. Not proposals that may or may not be agreed in the future, like this story.
Also, given your expertise on the subject, what do you think are the disadvantages of Brexit? Just so I can see that you’re an intelligent pragmatist rather than one of the millions being brainwashed by Farage and the tabloid press.
Ta.
Starmer playing to the gallery in his speech again lol.
‘Era of globalisation is over’ is now ‘Britain is open for business’
Firing shots at the left and the pro-EU folk.
What a fucking dumb cunt
I know its dumb of me but I’m always more disappointed when the supposedly left leaning parties just end up being run by the same dumb just want to be in power bell ends as the rest.
We regularly get told that politicians get into this game to help people but in the last 40-50 years how many people genuinely fitting that description have actually held power?
I’m a public servant here in Ireland. I’ve tried to do the best i can for those I feel I serve. I’ve risen to the lower reaches of upper management and reached the conclusion that that going higher means nothing other than a higher salary and nicer pension. The job is just to implement whatever the will the minister of the day is. The level I’m at now probably allows me straddle that the best so this is where i intend to stay.
What makes people like starmer want to be pm other than ego? Its depressing tbh.
A benefit of Brexit, and yet still nothing compared to what we had, and chose to throw away.
Don’t understand this at all. I use Greater Anglia all the time, and the prices are decent and you rarely get late trains, let alone cancellations. I’ve only experienced a single cancellation in over 10 years, and even then we had a replacement within an hour.
It’s Labour’s policy to renationalise all the rail franchises when they come up for renewal to bring the rail network back into public ownership over the course of the Parliament.
I also use Greater Anglia and it is significantly better than it was when I first started using it over 10 years ago. That said, I actually agree with the rail network going back into public ownership. Why should transport infrastructure which generates profits go into the hands of private companies when that money can be used for the ongoing improvement and modernisation of the network.