@Bavin if used correctly for instances like tactical fouls to stop break away attacks with no intention of playing the ball I don’t mind it, I just worry about these clowns implementing it correctly and that’s why I’m against it.
Then you book them, or send them off if it’s their second offence.
It’ll be AI referees next.
Yellows and reds as it stands is plenty - refs manage to fuck that up often enough. No need for this blue card bullshit. All this is is to try and enforce some respect towards refs. If they did their job with any degree of competence, the respect would be earned, which is how it should be.
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Let’s be real, plenty of refs are disrespecred despite making the right call. If you don’t think so, we will probably get loads of examples over the weekend of players complaining despite the call being correct.
Referee incompetence is another issue in itself. It doesn’t mean a certain idea doesn’t have merit.
Players should respect the referee as a default, that’s how it is in rugby and it works pretty well there.
Yeah I agree with that. I just think if the argument against a rule is that the refs might get it wrong then we can do the same for every rule in the game.
Cynical fouls are the main reason that I personally don’t mind the blue card idea.
I’m also fine with not changing anything but I don’t think this proposal is inherently bad.
It’s just going to add another layer of game changing variance. Shit idea, looking to solve a problem which dosnt exist and will have shit execution.
Refs should be doing everything to remove themselves from influence as much as possible not the opposite.
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as Joshua says this has been in hockey for ages. In hockey you can sub as much as you want tho and teams sometimes put on their best powerplay players (you’re up a guy) or boxplay players (you’re down a guy), I guess here it’ll be different.
I think the first thing I want to see in football is straight reds + 5 match bans for every foul that you cannot make by accident, regardless of how severe it is. start there. every shirt grab, straight red, your hand doesn’t close around a shirt by accident. You won’t ever card someone wrongly, and players will just immediately stop doing it, there is nothing to lose here.
The same goes for obvious obstructions on counter attacks, the likes where a bloke hangs around the waist of a guy like a bumbag to stop the attack. I hate how players (or teams, systematically, like city) use yellow cards as one free counter attack counter. straight red and a five match ban immediately. bam.
I mean the biggest reason there are so few goals in football compared to most other sports is that we don’t punish players for breaking the rules trying to stop players from scoring. If you weren’t allowed to pull shirts or arms, or obstruct players we’d get twice as many goals probably.
then you won’t need sin bins. just use yellows for what they were intended, to warn a player that is unintentionally being a bit too agressive to remind them of the level the ref wants the game at, that is fair and not always that easy to know, especially for players playing games in several tournaments with different levels every season.
also what shammy says, nail cunts with var after the game, what’s the problem.
Trying to make the game perfect will just ruin it.
If you want that, go play Fifa.
I don’t think there’s been a single rule change on the pitch in the last 10-15 years that has benefitted the sport.
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Concussion rules requiring a doctor to assess before going back on is definitely one for me.
And I’d argue concussion substitutions therefore.
But I can’t think of much else…
In terms of blue cards and dissent, how often does a player’s/manager’s complaints (especially after the ref has made a decision) change what the decision is? Very rarely.
And therefore even if the decision is wrong, disrespect and dissent is sort of pointless so they may as well try to discourage it somehow.
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Even that can be bloody awful at times
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These mugs can’t even consistently ref games with just yellow, red and VAR, so the answer is to add even more complexity to the mix?
Absurd
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So nice the implementation of VAR, just about every proposed rule change is about punishing any negative action towards match officiating - waving the imaginary card for instance.
It’s all about referees doubling down and showing no accountability for their incompetence.
As Joshua said, nothing put in place to protect players from dangerous play.
This idea is the brownest shade of blue since Eiffel 65.
Kinda like the 5 subs rule to be fair
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And the change that you can only make substitutes three times during a game.
That was absolutely needed.
I would maybe even add an extra sub or two for extra time in cups.
Be honest, I have no interest in discussion of this bullshit blue card introduction.
I’d rather people/players/teams talk about the quality of the refereeing, usage of VAR, too much power of the referees etc.
As I mentioned, they can’t even do good with 2 cards, why the fuck we give them another one to screw up more?
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No, 5 subs is already too many. You can literally change half the outfield team in a game now, don’t need any more than that.
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I respect your opinion.