How much are the better defensive stats due to the Wolves system/tactics, often averaging 40% possession and boosting the tackles/interception numbers?
The biggest thing I can see him having over Xhaka is nimbleness on the ball in tight spaces where Xhaka tends to go to water.
Ā£40m is a big number. Not comfortable with that even though I think the player is better than Xhaka (but thatās hardly saying much). Agree with ACM that heās way more nimble with his feet and is a much quicker passer than that oaf Xhaka. The bottom line is that we would improve overall with this signing. Partey / Neves is better than Xhaka being in there.
His value in 2021 should be no more than Ā£20-25m though.
I wonder if they still want AMN. Could really bring the fee down if we managed to do one of those wildly unrealistic FM style āplayer + cashā deals.
Maybe his defensive stats a bit inflated but then again maybe heād have better offensive stats in a team with more possession. I think importantly when you buy a midfielder from lower table teams you have to look if they are technically good enough in possession and distribution to play in a possession based side.
Apparently they were talking Ā£80m for him a couple of seasons ago when Man City were inquiring. Heās also only 24 so that gives you a player for 6-8 years perhaps
I do feel like we need a functional passing #6 in Artetaās system and thatās not the ideal role for Partey. Iām just not sure how I feel about paying more for Neves than we were willing to pay for Buendia.
We have conflicting reports on this. Havenāt seen Fabrizio or Bell report it. Wolves are trying to ship this guy for a reason. Apparently they were asking for 30m when the news broke, tells you a lot about how much they rate him.
Theyāve paid sums like these for Jimenez, Semedo and Fabio.
Thereās nothing wrong with a player losing form at a club and coming to the end of his cycle. Neves has shown an abundance of good talent during his time at Wolves and any down turn in form isnāt necessarily indicative of him not being a talent we should invest in.
If anything we can probably secure him for Ā£25m and thatās an immediate upgrade on Xhaka. I think heāll work well with Partey and whomever else we bring in to play ahead of them two.
This is a sensible transfer which may or may not happen but not one Iām adamantly opposed to.
Heās been losing form for 2 seasons thoughā¦
Surely thatās not a good sign.
Even his breakthrough season in the PL wasnāt that special actually.
Great talent but I think itās a dead cert Milan take up their option They spent 10m euros on his loan so it was always obvious the deal was structured in a way to spread the cost and also to mitigate having a high outgoing transfer fee in the books.
Wasnāt a great season but heās so young you just know heāll blossom eventually.
Liverpool spent lots of money on mid table Mane and VVD and it didnāt do them much harm. Only a couple of seasons ago Man City were looking at Neves btw
He looked pretty decent a couple of seasons ago but doubt Man City are looking at him now that he has dropped down to our level after a couple of average seasons.
If we can get him for 25m, and sell Xhaka for 20m, that would be an acceptable piece of business but not really enough to take us up a level.
Wolves were asking 80-90m 2 seasons ago from City. Now theyāre asking for 35m. I think he maybe a couple of levels above Xhaka, which in turn brings us up a level given Xhaka was our best. He has the technical ability to thrive at a bigger club.
It looks like the fee for Xhaka is 17m. Weāre also replacing a soon to be 29 year old with a 24 year old PL proven talent.
Iād personally take a player like this over whatever shit weāre likely to scout overseas and gamble on for Ā£10m less. Itās all well and good saying there are better buys out there for the money but this club would actually have to make them first.
I havenāt watched any Wolves this year so canāt comment on his supposed bad form, but based on previous years I think he improves on Xhaka, Elneny, Ceballos and Willock so could still be a useful long term acquisition.