This is in line with what I vaguely recollect from Dec 2020 (50/50, 18k+ votes).
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I remember that poll too. I still canât believe the answers.
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I was still sorta backing him back then. lol, although I definitely wouldnât have complained if the board made a move.
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Impossible. There is no round of 32 in the Europa League anymore 
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Is there another team in the league who get so consistently and thoroughly pumped at Anfield every single fucking time? Honestly.
A loss at Anfield is no disgrace, and the likeliest outcome, Iâm under no illusions about that. But is it really too much to expect to go there and be able to leave after 90 minutes with a scoreline that gives the appearance of it having been a contest? Just every now and then, could we perhaps be treated to a narrow 1-0 loss at Anfield? I wouldnât dare be so bold as to ask to leave Anfield with the occasional draw, let alone a win, so I donât think its too big an ask to hope for a narrow loss for once.
Teams like Burnley, Southampton, Wolves, Leicester, Spurs donât seem to get utterly banged literally every time they go to Anfield, do they?!
We can talk all day about how theyâre the best team in the land or whatever and weâre a work in progress etc etc, but itâs just not OK to go up there and get thoroughly pumped every single fucking time.
Iâm beyond sick of it, itâs embarrassing for any top flight club, let alone one with pretences of being a big club.
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I didnât think we were that bad tbh.
But I also had 8 beers so my judgement might be clouded.
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We were organised and compact in the first half but differed little going forward. The best compliment I can pay the team is that in the first half we didnât look bad (albeit we didnât look great).
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I mean, we lost 4-0 and our goalkeeper was praised for how well he played.
Itâs not great haha
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Thatâs grim
Iâm not gonna disagree, just sharing my beer hazed thoughts. 
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Even in the first have we allowed far too many shots though.
Canât expect to get anything against top teams when we concede so many chances, got away with it against Leicester but against Liveprool, City, Chelsea and others theyâll put us to the sword in ruthless fashion.
@Jakeyboy thatâs exactly what I was saying at 0 - 0, that weâre only talking up Ramsdale, was a bad omen. No way we shut them out lol.
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I think we only looked organised and compact in the first half because liverpool wernt playing well at all. Little intesnsity, miss placed touches and passes. Despite this they still left the first half with about 3 clearcut chances, a goal up and us not leaving a single impression on them.
The second the screw turned a little bit our true form showed. Dont really see any positives at all from either half performance.
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Awful result.
We go again!!
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I think this result fully exposes the gulf in class and where we ought to be come the end of the season.
Weâre a 5th, 6th, 7th place team and MAYBE 4th if weâre lucky and clubs around us fall off.
Weâve had luck with other fixtures benefitting us so who knows how long that will last.
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Just going through the results of the past few seasons itâs really only when Arsene left did we start having trouble. A lot of draws at anfield when we had AW as manager. Different story nowadays that we have an amateur and not a legendary all time great manager. Too bad.
I think part of the problem is the way Liverpool play suits big games.
Their high pressing, high intensity works better when the crowd are riled up and theyâre playing a good team.
Thatâs not to say they play badly against the likes of Burnley, but might explain the difference in scoreline.
Also we play out from the back a lot more than other teams, so Liverpool will obviously catch us out more on the counter than other teams
Ultimately the scoreline was what it was yesterday because of our (unforced) mistakes, but they did play well
Massively dissapointed⌠Couldnât even bother to write after the gameâŚ
I thought this squad had the tools to cope with Liverpool, give them a tight contest⌠I was so wrong.
They werenât just better, they are still on a completely different level compared to us and thatâs the issue.
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This is the main point.
When we have played against lower teams like Burnley, Watford, Crystal Palace, Brighton, Brentford, etc, we havenât dominated these games and if we do win, itâs never convincing.
But against genuine top level teams like Man City, Chelsea or Liverpool we are completely outplayed and outclassed
Even when we have beaten top half teams like spurs and Aston Villa, itâs because theyâre on a poor run and just before they sack their manager.
We simply are no more than a top half team under Arteta but under a proper manager, we have the potential to at least challenge for a top four place.
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We got rid of the lazy fuck Ozil, we spent 200m.
Our youth players are not really raw as they played quite an amount of games under their belts and they are supposed energetic on the field. Saka and Rowe are veterans already.
We just had a 10 game unbeaten streak and supposed our players were ready for this game, physically and mentally.
Somehow we got beaten by Liverpool the same way, again.
We said Klopp is a one trick pony, the high press. Can we or other teams copy that, at least on the intensity level? Nope.
They know when to press, when to reserve energy. They know when to take the risk, and when to be cautious.
For me, I just wanted to see a fight. A team has the mentality to give it a try, courage enough to challenge, doesnât care if you are the Pool, prime Real/Bayern/Barcelona etc.
After 200m spent, got rid some of the deadwoods, have a bunch of young (but not inexperienced) core players⌠still, we got beaten by the same fashion again. I donât see how the culture and mentality or approach was changed.
Welcome to ground zero and nothing has changed. All was just bullshit, especially the âprogressâ.
We donât even have our own brand and style of football.
We look âbetterâ under Arteta because we spent 200m, we have âbetterâ players.
Thatâs it.
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We did look better in the first 30 minutes
The surrender after that especially in the second half was Wengeresque (as in the period when he was past it right at the end).
The lack of bite in the attacking third also very deeply concerning.
The trio of Jota, Salah and Mane made our attacking quartet look third rate in every respect.
Our midfield was overrun in the end and our full backs a lot worse than Liverpoolâs.
As I said yesterday the next six weeks against decent but more beatable opposition will define Artetas reign.
All in, a 4-0 drubbing was at the worst end of my expectations yesterday. Very poor and only very limited sign of progress after 200m of backing for Arteta and Edus project. Simply not good enough and must do better.
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