Deserved red
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Wasnāt even reviewed.
Crazy stuff, even worse than the elbows Jesus received against Southampton. Crazy that this is not reviewed, but brushing a forehead with your head is an instant sending off.
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I thought you English cunts are all about hard men in football. A little elbowing shouldnāt phase you. What has become of yāall
Expected. So the club didnāt push as much as the media made it seem. Same with Raphinha.
Donāt blame though. Having both Arsenal and Man Utd in your headlines sells soā¦
Sounds more like VDS is still a salty manc loving knob.
We got Zinky, we donāt need your trash cheers Edwin.
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That reads as if he went out of his way to not negotiate with Arsenal.
or maybe they know they canāt milk us as much they would have with United and to be fair, thatās what happened.
Martinez is a good player but United severely overpaid.
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Heās also a dirty, elbowing cunt.
Thatās just pashun tho innit 
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Whilst itās becoming more common to deploy a playmaker at fullback (Cancelo, Trent and Zinchenko come to mind as the obvious ones), the whole system needs to be in place for that to work.
United donāt play anything like that. And without Martinez at CB, the centre of their defence is a pile of wank.
Iām happy with Zinchenko as our option in that position. Not as good a defender as Martinez clearly, but Zinny does everything else better in terms of what we want from that half-8 position
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Martinez is a pretty good playmaker too tbf.
I think Zinchenko does have the edge with crosses though. Pretty underrated in that regard.
Of course he does. He has Jesus on his side.
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Is it just me who thinks Martinez is being massively overrated? Flitters between brilliant and bozo.
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He wouldnāt live with/against a decent winger.
Martinez is fucking quality, I reckon if weād have got him weād have the best defence in the league.
White- Saliba-Gabriel - Martinez 
Very happy with Zinchenko and what he contributes to build up play and being so calm on the ball though.
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No, Iām in the same camp. I think heās a great player but a bit to reckless. Thatās why I wouldnāt have him as a first choice CB myself. Certainly someone who needs the right partner to work there.
He does need someone calmer like Varane and Lindelof but when itās him and Maguire itās all gung-ho defending.
Varane is used to it from Madrid playing with Pepe and Ramos.
Imagine a backline with Romero and Martinez as CBs.
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I think long-term Martinez would have had a greater effect there.
Main attraction with Zinchenko is that he was the best fit to come in and hit the ground running as he knew exactly what Mikel wanted in that role and from what I understand heās made a great impact in the locker room along with Zinchenko.
Juls from ESPN mentioned that someone told him Jesus and Zinchenko have made a big difference in that aspect, training has become more competitive and theyāve been great motivators for the lads.
I know heās missed more than a few games but Zinchenko has had a big hand in our strong start.
Pundits want to act like the Brentford and City games didnāt happen. Martinez has been good especially when next to Varane. However, Iām seeing his name pop up in team of the season to date etc and am baffled by it.
People moan about our Brentford game constantly being mentioned lol
Imo itās funny to laugh at the time but you really canāt hold new players to their opening games in the August of the season
Heās been part of other poor United defensive performances amongst some very good ones.
Heās been a good signing, but he isnāt the same when Varane isnāt there.
Heād have been class here for us, but Zinny probably offers more.