8 Point gap between 2 and 3rd already is quite something
Preston, rather tellingly, had 2 games against the top 2 in the last 5 days and got beaten in both.
This time last Friday, Preston were unbeaten in the league! Things can change quite quickly in the Championship.
The Ipswich- Leicester clash isnât for a while, I believe.
Well I donât know about actually winning the league, but Burnley broke the record last season for earliest promotion. So if Leicester do it quicker - which they wonât - it wonât actually be that impressive now.
Premier League not fucking about with these changes. Itâs not even certain Leicester get promoted this season given the lead theyâve squandered.
Potential Dewsbury-Hall bargain buy scenario
Strange timing. Winder if they uncovered something they tried to keep hiddenâŚ
Letâs hope the ânot fucking aboutâ includes the Autumn hearing over Cityâs 2,000 breaches.
Yeah not fucking about unless itâs Chelsea or City.
Everton, Forrest and Leicester donât bring eyeballs to the league. Letâs see if theyâre willing to drop the hammer on those other two.
To be fair to the PL the process is they do an investigation, make the charge and then hand the process over to an independent commission. Its kind of out of their hands at that point. If that commission says they need more time what can they do but agree to that.
If and when Chelsea and City have sanctions applied the strong nature of the process will likely ensure the punishment sticks.
Yes, thereâs far more for the PLâs lawyers to investigate with City.
The Everton and Forest ones are like fixed penalty notices for road traffic offenses, Thereâs nothing subjective, the evidence is out there, hereâs your punishment.
Cityâs is more like a financial crime case with forensic and financial experts picking over the labyrinthine company structure, lawyers with different specialties looking at the various strands of the alleged breaches and possibly a KC sitting over it all co-ordinating things and providing the EPL with frequent merits assessments for each of the 115 breaches.
Wouldnât rule out the HMRCâs involvement as thereâs more than a wiff of money laundering.
Itâll be a miracle if itâs wrapped-up in 2024.
If one breach is worth 4-6 points, 115 breachesâŚ
With Everton, Forest and Leicester all being punished quickly, it must mean that because FFP are taking so long over Man City and Chelsea, theyâll both be getting relegated as well as a transfer ban.
The City case was always going to take years to resolve. Theirs goes way beyond FFP.
I know youâre just joking but it canât work like that for city and hopefully wonât.
If we simply do 115x4 all it will do is ensure a single relegation and theyâd bounce back immediately.
Needs to be something more severe, even if itâs stripping certain titles. I canât really see what the options would be outside of that, you canât arbitrarily drop them to a certain division and a fine seems incredibly ironic and pointless.
Man City should be docked points at the start of every season until it makes up the difference/total for the 115 charges (assuming theyâre guilty of all, which they wonât be - theyâll appeal each one).
e.g. the charges spread over ~8 seasons right? Assuming 4 points per charge: 460/8 = 57.5 points deducted per season for 8 years, plus relegation to League 2.
Though I imagine even with this, theyâll be back in the EPL in a few years. Not even sure this is harsh enough for these bastards.
If they were relegated multiple divisions, then you would have to imagine that players would not all hang around and they would have to meet the financial restraints of the lower divisions, so simply coming back up would not be as simple as it sounds I dont think.
For example being relegated to EFL league one, would mean no stars would stick around for 2 seasons there. So feasibly they could then be reliant on academy players - would the top talents stick around? Such a punishment would have consequences and ensure a rebuild likely necessaryâŚ
Can still see them getting off far more lightly than that though
The most effective punishment for Man City and Chelsea should be a complete transfer ban for several seasons and relegation because fining them is pointless.
It would be good to see their titles stripped from them but it wonât happen.
If the PL are lenient and donât give them a transfer ban and relegation, then the clubs that have already had points deducted for far less, have every right to ask why.
Agreed with you both there.
I recall the Everton CEO/Chairman saying that âwe will be watching how cases with other clubs will be handled with great interestâ.
Need to get the popcorn out, this is going to be juicy
I just hope that we donât get caught by FFP one day, I heard we were at the limits of FFP this year due to our spending & lack of UCL football and poor player sales for the past 3 seasons till now.
Iâd expect at least 50% of those charges get dropped. Thatâs still around 57 charges. Letâs be generous and drop another 50% percentâthats around 23 charges.
23 x 5 (average point deduction) = 115pts
Could it be possible that Man City get hit with this many charges and NONE OF THEM stick!?
The most serious charges they face are essentially fraud, rather than falling foul of FFP.