The thing I worry about with Arteta tho is that he’s taken players like Auba and Partey and made them look absolutely horrible with the way he’s used them, and Gabriel looks to have regressed under his tutelage as well. Shocking that Bruce has gotten more out of Willock too. So yeah kind of a waste to give this dood money and a summer window.
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I wish we could have fuck out! In this thread title
Arteta being sacked immediately and a new manager being appointed would signal that Kroenke may intend to hold on to the club. Arteta still hanging around after the calamity on Thursday could mean Kroenke wants to leave his firing to a new owner or something.
I’m reaching I know but that’s what this club has done to me 
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Zzzzzz
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Replacing Wenger was the right thing to do but replacing him with such underwhelming managers was never going to work.
I can’t remember Emery or Arteta being remotely near the top of of anyone’s list.
There is no urgency or planning from the board all they do is react when it’s gone wrong.
Exactly.
He stumbled onto picking ESR and Odegaard and without them we’d be a lot nearer relegation than the top six places.
I’ve said this for a while.
We have plenty of decent players, even the players he’s bought have come in and done a good job but after a few games they look unmotivated and average.
So there must be a reason why Partey, Gabriel, Odegaard, Aubameyang, Bellerin, Willian, etc, who are all good players, look so average under Arteta.
When Willock looks top quality at Newcastle under Bruce, you know there is something wrong.
To trust him for another transfer window and next season is just negligent.
When it does go wrong, what top quality manager are they going get during the middle of a season?
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It’s easier to stand out in a shit team though. Oh, hang on…
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How the fuck did they internally justify 45m for Partey but not justify investment for a proper CEO & staff?
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Arteta chased Aouar all summer, didn’t get him and then realized we needed at least another midfielder, even if Partey is a completely different player. Vinai is clueless and Edu is corrupt so there’s no real internal decision making process. They probably thought one midfielder is as useful as the other.
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That ITK, AFCBell, has been consistent about Partey joining Arsenal the whole summer. Not sure that was our fallback option tbh.
Not being able to get rid of Ozil was probably more of an issue to get an attacking midfielder.
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That’s a good point. I’d forgotten about the Bell (who returned to us on the third day) hyping that transfer all summer! It’s what elevated the Bell to Godtier status for me.
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When I look at the whole timeline post Gazidis’ departure
18-Sep-2018
Raul Sanllehi, formerly head of football relations, is taking on a new role as head of football.
Vinai Venkatesham will move from his post as the chief commercial officer to managing director.
21-Jan-2019
Sven Misllintat leaves
9-July-2019
Edu becomes technical director
15-Aug-2020
Raul Sanllehi leaves the club and his role is taken over by managing director Vinai Venkatesham
So from the original team of the executive as bad as they were, we went from 4 top executives in Gazidis, Sven, Raul & Vinai to just 2 (Vinai & Edu).
What sort of owner lets his assets managed by two complete novices and let them handle a 45m investment? Did they learn nothing from getting fucked by Raul’s corruption by giving too much power to a single individual?
Why is Vinai getting promoted twice in 2 years just because others departed?
Horrendous mismanagement from owners often touted to be money minded.
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Same goes for Edu.
Vinai and Edu are basically Buckles from Line of Duty. Promoted simply because they were the next in line without any regard for their actual skills.
I was listening to a podcast about the NBA today and it mentioned, which I never realized, that the Kroenke’s once employed Masai Ujiri! He was a young and dynamic executive who helped fleece the Knicks during the Carmelo Anthony trade negotiations. It makes a little more sense to me that the Kroenkes were willing to roll the dice with young executives at Arsenal in Edu and Vinai. The big difference is that Ujiri knew the NBA really well by the time he became the Nuggets’ chief executive. Vinai and Edu just don’t have a comparable background in the PL.
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This was my whole point tho. When the fans were turning toxic against the man I was telling you all that we had no plan and the only thing keeping us somewhat relevant was Arsene. So in hindsight don’t you see that losing Arsene is why we are mid table now? The club never had a plan lol. Maybe we would still be struggling but we wouldn’t be this bad.
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I’d say it’s worse than that. He makes bone headed decisions like freezing out players (Ozil, Guendo, Saliba) and is only forced to make the logical choice when we’re in crisis.
He did it up until Christmas when we were near the relegation zone, he’s doing it now with his team selection when we’ve crashed out of Europe.
Always arrogant, always reactive and now blaming the players for what is clearly his clueless management.
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Honestly I think he just fluked his way through that period.
We now have a large enough sample size to see that this guy really doesn’t know what he’s doing. His team selections, the way he keeps changing players despite performances, the random formations, the confusing touch line instructions all point to someone who is clueless and completely out of his depth. After 18 months we still don’t have a regular first 11, an identity, a style of play or any kind of philosophy that we are supposedly working towards! It would be absolutely hilarious if it wasn’t so tragic and didn’t have watch his anti football for a whole season. The thought of having to watch this garbage for another year is really vomit inducing man.
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He kind of did, those games were against Frank Lampard and a bunch of team in the lower half of the table, and still several of those games where very close result where we had a lot of luck.
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Josh Kroenke suuuuucks!
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Awful choice.
But that’s the equivalent of the 7th best team in Europe in soccer.
Rams are contenders for the big prize no doubts.
Also the team above them in that ranking almost certainly won’t have their best player coming back.
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