Havertz has played about 200 games in the last few years and hasn’t played well. At all.
We’re so used to failure as a fanbase that we’re happy to stick with mediocrity.
No chance would any other top team want this guy.
Certainly not for £65m, even if he got 15+ G/As per season, which he definitely won’t get.
top teams have busts all the time…manu just bought mount. not saying havertz will be a bust either just saying big teams have expensive clangers. Look at RM and Hazard
If you believe the reports both Madrid and Bayern wanted him.
Madrid didn’t value him for what Chelsea were asking and the Bayern “interest” seemed tenuous at best
We were essentially the only team seriously in for him
When Man U bought Mount and we bought Havertz, most people questioned the ridiculously fees paid for them, especially when we could have had a proven quality PL player like Maddison for far less money instead.
We shouldn’t be declaring anything on this guy yet tbh, so far my only concern was Arteta changing too much to seemingly accommodate him with our most dominant midfielder playing fullback (inverted or whatever) among other weird things. Although I suspect this has part to do with Arteta not being great at subs and getting all his best players on the pitch.
The fee is splitting hairs really, is a £40m bust really all that much better? Nothing suggests the coach didn’t get all the players he wanted. Although frustratingly one of them got hurt.
That’s true! But we’ve just about gotten rid of one in Pepe, and have now seemingly replaced him with Havertz in return.
Yups, I think there were £50m bids being talked about and that they wouldn’t budge more than that, so they dropped their interest.
Except Pepe had halfway decent stats in his first two seasons I think.
I can’t believe I’m saying this because I didn’t want the guy here in the first place, but it’s too early to declare him a bust. There’s plenty of time to do that later.
I wouldn’t judge any player on what’s been going on at Chelsea.
The comment about the fanbase is wide of the mark in my opinion. It’s fans who are writing off players after 4 games and demanding that we win every game comfortably. There’s no being happy to “stick with mediocrity” there.
In the stadium the atmosphere has been better, but outside there I think fans have been pretty poisonous this season, and if Arsenal have had any problem so far this season I’d rank supporters outside the stadium as one of the biggest.
It’s was a three year sample size at Chelsea, it can’t be discounted so easily.
People writing him off so early is obviously way OTT though.
Had an assist against France last night.
Hopefully this kicks off his career
‘On the ropes’ lol
A decent through ball and falling over a lot in a friendly match isn’t that great and as for “having Saliba on the ropes,” I can only assume he’s joking.
The Trossard compilation, in his recent match for Belgium was far more impressive.
Did anyone see him kicking the ball out while the ref wasn’t watching after winning a foul to time waste even further. I actually think he did it twice but the camera didn’t quite get it. 
Wasn’t an impressive cameo, like Bambi on ice at times in comparison to the way we play the game
Did absolutely fine when he came on. Probably starts on Wednesday 
He just needed to come on and not fuck anything up. Mission accomplished.
He got his foot in a few times, made himself a nuisance and played a lot of good, safe passes and that shot was pretty close.
It seems like he was put on to take some pressure off of Gabriel who looked shattered in the second half, so job done.
Erm, I can’t recall any bad moment he had. Came on with Tomiyasu to kill the game, and he certainly helped with that.