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Nah no need, if you say you did you did. I just donât remember. 
Referees were always making mistakes before VAR, so I have no issues with that. You get some decisions, and you donât get some, although off late it does feel like nothing goes our way but perhaps we are just overlooking the ones that do go our way cause we are obviously biased.
At the end of the day, I donât think there is an anti Arsenal agenda, not when so many different officials are involved both on the field and as VAR. I still believe if we are good enough on the pitch, weâll get the results, in spite of the refereeing mistakes, just like all the seasons when we won the league. Yes, there would be close games where one decision could make the difference but over a long season, all that evens out.
I donât believe decisions even out over the course of the season, sorry but thatâs just a wives-tail imo.
Out of curiosity weâve had some really poor decisions in games in recent times, vs Newcastle, Chelsea, Aston Villa etc⌠canât think of too many debatable ones that have gone our way this season ? Maybe the Havertz non red vs Newcastle ?
Iâll add this, if decisions do even out over the course of the season then weâd be every chance to win the league as we are due about 4 or 5 big ones to go our way.
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I know that United fans are still crying about the Gabriel/Hojlund non-penalty, but I cba going back to review that decision to see if they have a point lol.
I cant remember many/any big dodgy calls going our way, but I suppose it is part of the nature of football fans to vividlely remember how your team has been wronged and to barely remember things that might have unfairly gone in your favour.
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Got to agree with this. Wolves seem to be the hardest done by for decisions thus far this season, but my heart doesnât bleed for them.
When weâre relying on refereeing decisions to get us out of jail for not showing up to an away game, weâre on a hiding to nothing.
The general concensus is that we were good for a point at both Newcastle and Villa. Kinda embarrassing given that we should have been playing for 3 points in each game.
Some of our insipid away performances (and Iâll throw in Brentford into that equation) remind me of the dark days of the Wenger transition period. Not good if we have title aspirations.
That United disallowed goal would be no different to us complaining about Trossard at Brentford and Martinelli at Everton and I havenât even mentioned those.
Also the attitude that the officials shouldnât be competent at their job and we got what we deserved due to being wasteful in front of goals in bollocks also.
The officiating in this country needs to be better plain and simple, itâs actually embarrassing how bad it is given itâs the best league in the world.
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Yeah this even out over the season talk is just words.
I mean; think about it, what are the chances that all 20 teams in the league are going to get the exact same number of big decisions going for/against them? Itâs just not going to happen, is it?
Iâm sure there have been people monitoring this stuff before and there are always a handful of teams who are fucked over more often than others.
I do agree with this though. Seems that way sometimes when you see other clubs getting a decision we didnât get literally an hour later! But I think referees are just inept.
I think VAR has made some of them worse too. Itâs taken away their ability to think straight. Yes they got things wrong before VAR, but itâs worse now because not only is the on field referee blind, the people watching 800 replays are also blind, which makes it more frustrating.
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But yeah @JakeyBoy that game was some marginal calls that went our way, Iâll pay that.
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That was me racking my for anything going in our favour, and was the best I had, and even then Iâm not gonna say we definitely had shit go in our favour in that game.
Seen cretins on social media sharing screenshots of Luton and Villa, suggesting thereâs a âplay for as long as necessary until Arsenal scoreâ conspiracy, because 5 mins added time was given initially and the game went into the 98th minute or whatever.
Either ignorant of the rules or intentionally ignoring that itâs a minimum of 5 minutes added time
Yeah people arenât aware with the game gets stopped for 30 seconds in stoppage time etc, thatâll get added on 
Thatâs what I think as well. If you ask me now, I think we have been on the wrong end of most 50-50 decisions but thatâs most likely because all the ones that did go our way have been committed in my mind as obvious ones and not 50-50 ones.
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Anyways hopefully it levels out over the next 6 months and we get
A goal disallowed for the opposition in one game when itâs deemed theyâve fouled a player in the other half ( Eg Odegaard on Eriksen )
A goal allowed for us when weâre offside and the VAR forget to draw lines ( Eg Toney vs Us )
A goal allowed for us when the ball could be out, it could be offside and it most certainly is a foul ( Eg Joelington )
An equalising chalked off for the opposition late in a game for the opposition in similar fashion to us Saturday.
That would be a nice way to get 6-8 points extra over the remainder of the season 
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Even if the count of decisions even out, unless they happen against the same opponent, it is not the same.
The decision in the Newcastle game, which led to a 3-point loss, cannot be compensated with 3rd goal correction against, say, Sheffield.
The equaliser against a potential title challenger cannot be compensated by an equaliser given against Manchester United (tee hee)
In days of VAR, the proportion of incorrect decision really shouldnât be same as the age old refeering.
I thought we had a pretty good VAR performance last season and we would improve on it but we have gone backwards.
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This whole evens out over a season is codswallop - it doesnât. An incorrect decision that costs points, is not the same as getting a decision wrong when a team is 4-0 up/down, etc.
This whole take your chances and donât rely on the ref is equally BS - how many games are decided, where 1 goal is the difference between a win/draw/loss, the weight of an incorrect decision like a blatant penalty not given could easily decide the title or European qualification or relegation when the teams are so close.
I donât think there is a specific agenda against Arsenal (but I never thought Barcelona were bribing referees) - but I do think there can be a bias in referees even if not consciously (Familiarity bias is a real thing and we get the same small group of officials over and over).
When Jarred Gillett (a known Liverpool fan), gets so many (as a proportion of other teams) of our games as VAR and now it looks he is getting them as ref too.
As VAR, he:
- Wrongly disallowed a Sokratis goal at Palace
- Denied a clear penalty for Odegaard against Man City but then awarded a soft penalty for Silva
- Failed to award Jesus a penalty vs Chelsea (when clattered by Sanchez)
Surely PGMOL can find referees whoâs TRUE favourite team is not in the PL. Recruit some officials who support Celtic/Rangers/Shamrock Rovers/Bayern/Barca/PSG etc. Seems crazy to have refs who support Liverpool and Newcastle officiate over any games in the PL
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But even that âcontroversyâ could be evened out if the league were better at communicating/implementing time added on.
Just imagine if somewhere in the ground every time there was a stoppage a visible clock started counting up from 00:00. Then itâs no mystery how much time is being added on. It doesnât have to be this way.
Edit: My personal preference is to stop the clock for a stoppage but I know that would make purists upset.
The Mrs not letting that one go then? 
Canât prove it isnât handball, which by extension means they cant prove it is. Let the ref fucking look at it again. Such absolute fuckery all round.
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