Gabriel Jesus (9)

yup turn him in to Rome. I mean Roma.

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If saying he should’ve been hooked at half time is ā€˜extreme’, then ya’ll need to get thicker skin lol.

It wasn’t just about that. You’ve said a lot of stuff about Jesus today, you’ve all but asked for his immediate release at this point. :jesus:

There are mitigating factors for sure.

He rotated into a team with other rotation options up front, in midfield and defense. He had an early season knock which may have disrupted any momentum coming into the season.

But if I want to be fair, he looks fit but still completely unlikely to score.

As others have said, that’s a low bar. I know you were firmly behind signing him as our main striker but you surely have to start to accept that he hasn’t worked out. We were better as a team without him. He has to be moved on in the summer.

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Low bar or not, he was.

And on another day(if Sterling or Havertz converted their chances), we would’ve been ahead in the first half because of it.

So I don’t particularly get this outrage over this particular performance. Feels very forced.

All of his performances have been shit and today was no different. We are a weaker team when he plays. Havertz is our best option for No.9. Jesus should remain on the bench and be used as a sub when the game has one or on the wings when needed to provide cover. Next summer he needs to be sold. Instrumental in his first season in getting us back into the Top 4, but no longer what we need going forward. He isn’t a top quality player.

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Arteta isn’t playing Jesus if he thinks he’s finished. The club are clearly seeing something different in training and hopefully he can avoid injuries and play himself into form.

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We’ve only just entered October of 2024, July of 2025(when the next summer window opens) is 9 months away.

The least of my worries currently is whether we’ll sell Jesus or not next year.

Arteta can still play him and know he’s cooked

We have limited options, 2nd string gotta get games sometimes even if the.drop off is steep

But we’ve literally seen Arteta leave players he didn’t rate on the bench even when we could have done with rotating through players. We know he doesn’t play people if he doesn’t trust he can rely on them.

Jesus must clearly be showing something in training that we aren’t seeing on the pitch yet and I believe if he can stay fit (and his availability has undoubtedly been a huge issue) we’ll get much better performances from him.

He can’t go a whole season leaving those guys on the bench, just isn’t sustainable. Jesus can still run around a lot and be trusted to carry out instructions

Havertz gonna play every single game even if they’re on the slide?

I just don’t quite see a start against Southampton as proof that Jesus must be showing a great deal in training etc

When can you point to a time this season or last that Arteta has just decided to rotate in a player he doesn’t think is good enough?

He didn’t even want to drop Saka for a mid week league cup game there’s no way he’s rotating Jesus in for a PL fixture if he doesn’t believe he’s got it anymore.

He’s not playing Jesus if he thinks he’s cooked. He said himself earlier in the summer that he looked sharp and determined so whilst it hasn’t translated to anything on the pitch yet I’m quite confident that there’s still a good player that can give us some good performances this season

I disagree with this. Sterling, Jorginho and Jesus starting today shows that Arteta was resting certain players, rather than these guys starting on merit. If we still had Nketiah, he would have started today.

Arteta trusts seniority, even if he knows the player is cooked and not in his long term plans.

I didn’t say he didn’t rest players I said when has he ever rotated players in he didn’t trust or think could contribute for a PL game?

Trossard has not played so many minutes this season that he needed to be rotated out of the team and neither has Martinelli.

Nketiah and Cedric spring to mind…

Could be he is showing something in training etc

It could also be he’s seen as a squad player that can still be useful throughout a season. He can know Jesus isn’t the same player but also believe he can still contributeand be relied upon against one of the worst teams in the league if not the very worst.

And you may be right and he may need more fitness to produce some good performances but long term I think his future lies elsewhere.

To be honest whenever we don’t perform well and there’s someone in the team who is no longer one of the darlings in the squad they’ll get stick before the others happened with Trossard, Martinelli etc but unlike those guys Jesus is undergoing a sharp decline which is why he’s increasingly looking like the odd man out in the attack.

Cedric played 59 minutes in the PL last season. That’s a serious stretch.

And he trusted Eddie enough to give him games and when he no longer felt him useful he stopped playing him. He didn’t even rotate in ESR and Viera during the run in last season when the players were clearly leggy.

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Well let’s see how much Jesus plays this season, obviously when fit and able to!