I think Neville has regressed as a pundit but he knows what will make people react especially on social media
Plenty of it is theatre to a degree
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I just see both as Sky promotional hype on both counts.
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Is it non competitive or are those two teams just on another planet generally?
And with all the money that teams have these days you could say itâs even more competitive. City despite almost running away with the league at one point dropped points to Palace, Spurs and Southampton hence making this a proper title race for the run in.
I think some just need to admit that they donât like the two clubs and leave it at that, doesnât seem to be a whole lot of objectivity here which is understandable I suppose.
One draw or loss could now cost either the league and that isnât thrilling? Not sure why for some us and United should have ownership on what a rivalry should or can be.
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No one has said this. The thread asked us to compare two so thats what has happened. You could easily put United/Newcastle or Us/United/Chelsea or that equation with us removed after 05 and they are all better too.
Mate you yourself said that what they are doing doesnât amount to a rivalry.
I sure did. And now Iâve provided further examples to back up why I think its a lame one.
I do think this debate is fitting of a wider discussion.
This is probably the first time in football has an era been defined by itâs coaches. Not just at top level either. Part of it is just it feels there isnât as much player talent around so thereâs been a more emphasis on getting the most out of what you can. But is it more exciting? What Klopp and Pep does is incredible. But I donât think Iâm in awe compared to watching a truly talented footballer.
Just take earlier in the week, who was talking about Madridâs tactical display or how amazing Benzema was?
I hope some more talent come from somewhere. These old heads ainât going to be around forever.
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Really? Like Fergie wasnât doing the same by getting the most out of what he had? Especially in the latter half of his tenure I mean thatâs the remit of any coach worth their salt.
And I think thereâs plenty of awe inspiring individual performances in the PL and elsewhere and from younger players too, the next generation will be fine.
If weâre talking about the dearth of striker talent then thatâs an argument but I donât quite see the drain of talent that youâre alluding to in general.
Many of Fergusonâs eras has been defined by the players. Class of 92? Roy Keane? Tevez/Ronaldo/Rooney?
Fair enough though you think thereâs sufficient talent. Time will tell on that one.
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Youâre a Don Revie v Cloughie man, ainât ya 
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Wenger/Fergie at its peak was an iconic rivalry that exceeded even beyond the pitch.
As characters, they were both unique and influential in how they impacted the game, but the memorable quotes between them and iconic teams have remained as such. They were also synonymous with their clubs because of their long service which is rare in the game now.
Yes there is a high standard setting bar which Man City and Liverpool have created on this era. But I donât know their rivalry feels soulless to me?
Man City were mainly an absolute nothing until they bought themselves to where they are. Pep, as world class a coach that he is, benefitted from those budget luxuries. The club likely cheered the likes of Liverpool/arsenal regularly if they prevented Man Utd from something.
Although Wengerâs decline did impact the Wenger/Fergie rivalry towards the end, it was still iconic.
And @Aussiegooner we could be winning titles left and right currently but I think fans and would still want to preserve this rivalry for the great standing and magic it had in its own era.
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Nail. Head. MissRedNL.
(Almost rhymes)
It wasnât just Wenger and Ferguson. Keown on RvN, Keane vs Vieira, shit in the tunnels, it felt like a proper rivalry between two entire clubs, it doesnât happen much today and especially not between these two.
This is potentially only the second or third game theyâve played against each other that really matters. Have they even played a cup game against each other? I canât remember one. It felt like we played United every other year in cups, charity shield etc.
This isnât a meaningful rivalry at all, itâs just two good teams who happen to be in the top 2 spots in the same league.
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Look Iâm fasting so Iâm trying not to swear as much.
BUT WHAT?!
Letâs get this straight
Wenger Vs Fergie is the reason Man City exist in the way they do.
Never make this awful comparison again.
No wonder itâs scousers that spouted more deranged nonsense.
@DavidHillier tell em bro.
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Dont worry, I swore on your behalf earlier
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So much promotion of toxic masculinity in this thread.
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Imagine if the first 300 episodes of Dragonball Z were just Goku and Vegeta talking about what an outstanding competitor the other one was.
What a great TV show that would be.
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Itâs literally the definition of what a rivalry is.
Theyâre competing for the league with all they have ergo its a rivalry, just because they havenât thrown pizzas at each other doesnât discount it from being one.
People making up their own definition of what rivalry means lol
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hang in there buddy 
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