And this is the only reason Mikel is sticking with him. Even in the game against Luton, while his confidence must have been down, his long ball accuracy was at 50% (8 out of 16 or something)
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I agree.
Ramsdale started to look shaky at the end of last season, but was that really a reason to completely destabilise his position at the club, especially when his replacement looks no better?
This situation has meant Raya is under more pressure than any other GK in the PL so will be scrutinised for everything he does against Aston Villa, while Ramsdale is sitting on the bench, knowing Arteta doesnāt rate him.
Bring back Martinez. 
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If we think Ramsdale is better, or even that theyāre similar, really being English, younger, and having been here longer should give Ramsdale the edge.
I donāt have strong feelings on whoās better goalkeeping-wise, and they both have errors in them, so Iām in favour of Ramsdale on this basis.
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When your GK is doing that during the run in then what chance do you really have though
Shouldnāt be brushed off and it clearly wasnāt for Arteta and co
Thatās something Ramsdale can easily achieve.
None of Rayaās on the ball abilities are beyond Ramsdaleās realm at all.
Thatās not what Arteta thinks though
Perhaps Ramsdaleās early ball playing was overperforamnce rather than something he can replicate that must have been the feeling internally or perhaps thereās even more thatās gone on behind the scenes with regard to the relationship between Ramsdale and Arteta
Can we speak for ourselves? Can we have a contradicting thought process than Arteta?
Can we all agree that Artetaās opinion of Nketiah is not as low as us fans?
What do we fans think? What do you think, Darkseid? Where do you stand on Raya & Ramsdaleās on the ball ability?
Also regarding this, Unless Ramsdale is some Auba-Ozil-esque disruptive fellow(which I doubt), this doesnāt look good on Arteta. Instead of getting it right with Ramsdale, the solution is to buy a replacement for a high value while reducing the value of an existing asset.
It seems pretty clear itās over for Ramsdale. Iām on to hoping the next guy will come in soon to get Raya out of the team.
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This is all so pointless, Ramsdale according to his own words could not get comfortable enough to commit to Artetaās demands. Raya obviously has and so Arteta will accept the errors so that the keeper at least tries to play exactly the way he demands.
Ramsdale will be #2 until he can find it within himself to play the way Arteta demands (unless he has run out of chances)
Have we seen this?
Ramsdale mentioned about how high Arteta wanted him to be. Have we noticed Raya doing differently from what Ramsdale used to?
Even at the expense of costing us points and potentially the title?
If so, then questions need to be asked of Artetaās man management, cause the handling of the GK situation has been awful.
I mean, look at this shit:
Itās totally unacceptable to be at the top of this list. Iām sure Liverpool fans feel the same way at the way theyāve been handling games as of late too.
Yes, Raya plays well up the field when we are in possession.
You bang on constantly about how shit a man manager Arteta is, despite it being obvious after our clear out that he has the whole team on board. Ramsdale before being dropped was himself saying how amazing Arteta was as a man manager. Ramsdale said he couldnāt get comfortable playing as high as Arteta was demanding - itās obvious it was discussed a lot. So you have on multiple occasions mentioned wanting ruthlessness form the club, but when Arteta is ruthless like with Ramsdale, you bleat about what a shit man manager he is.
Not once have I ever said Artetaās a shit man manager. Find a post where Iāve said Arteta is a shit man manager? I do think heās not great at it, but that doesnāt = shit.
Youāre very defensive about this GK situation for some strange reason. Why canāt you admit that sometimes Arteta gets things wrong, and this appears to be one of them?
Everyone can see it. If we fail to win the title, itās looking like itāll come from this specific situation which he created by the way.
Good article by John Harrison if you like your stats.
TLDR
Raya had much better stats at Brentford
Both ramsdale and Raya performing a lot worse than last season
This season:
Both below premier league average
Raya extremely inconsistent, (great performances followed by horror shows)
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I always find graphics like that meaningless. What exactly counts as a mistake leading to a goal. If you give away a penalty or free kick and that leads to a goal why should ,that not be considered a mistake?
Not good = poor/shit (especially when brought up repeatedly)
I am not defensive of this specific situation - but it is obvious that Arteta is adamant about this decision and he wanted something Ramsdale was unable or unwilling to provide. And personally I like Ramsdale and didnāt think he needed replacing.
Just because Raya has made mistakes, doesnāt mean Arteta was wrong to look to improve on Ramsdale. Some fans and the pundits heaping pressure on Raya will not help him to get comfortable. Ramsdale also makes mistakes (even before Raya)
Similarly if Raya makes a couple big saves in the final months and we win the title it will have come from this specific situation.
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Its not really the same thing at all but Iām claiming it. 
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What do you mean everyone? Quite a few in here have backed Arteta for his decision.
Itās a bit of a pattern that I noticed with you but you keep stating these absolutes on certain topics but itās often enough invalid.
Itās very rarely the case that everyone in OA agrees about something(and thatās a good thing btw).
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I agree, I think those should be considered mistakes which lead to goals. It is concerning for me that we have two goal keepers who are so error prone. If it wasnāt for them, weād likely still be unbeaten and have about an 6+ point gap by now.
That is true, and I will change tune and admit I was wrong and Arteta was right in the end if that happens.
It just looks like weāve caused a real problem for ourselves as it stands.
This was Artetaās doing though in my view. His comments about wanting to change GKs at half-time etc, played into the mediaās hands to create more stories. Then Ramsdale and his dad made matters worse by interviewing with every publication goingā¦
Read the Luton match day thread from the moment those two goals went in, the consensus looks clear to me about what people think about Artetaās decision so far. Only way to tell for sure is to do a poll.
People on here decide how to respond based on who said the thing, rather than what it is being said. If I had a different username, thereād be no issue - cause its always the same 3 or 4 people who reply to me with animosity, just because its me. Rather than the content.
Someone will say the exact same thing, and theyāll never get quoted. 
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People tend to forget one thingā¦
Itās always easier to rack up the stats at weaker clubs who are facing more shots, because you get more saves (unless youāre a totally horrible goallie). Thatās why every season you see some mediocre GKs being close to the top statistically. While many top goallies look mediocre statistically.
As always, you should take all those stats with a truck of salt. Basing an opinion about a player on them is just idiotic.