There’s and excuse for everyone in here 
So the ‘I love raping you’ message was taken from an accuser in a case that was thrown out of court in 2013, with Tate deemed not guilty.
OnlineArsenal think this makes Tate guilty of a crime in 2022.
It’s obvious that people who don’t like him WANT him to be guilty and will cling on to anything.
Personally, I’ll let the system do its thing and find him guilty or not guilty in this case.
Why did they not show the whole conversation? There would seem to be a reason why her messages weren’t shared with the public. I’m sure the courts will be interested in her messages for context.
I’m done with this for a bit as people are prepared to believe a pizza box helped track down one of the most famous men on the planet. Also, none of us know the facts except Tate and his brother are under arrest.
I was waiting for a video of him explicitly admitting to being a rapist. An out of context message is VERY poor evidence. If he is a rapist, I hope there is something much more solid to pin him to to send him down.
No you don’t.
‘Oh yes I do!’
This shit is becoming pantomime.
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Well done for editing my original message to remove the context! Very accurate with what is happening in the world these days.
I edited nothing. I selectively quoted which is a neat feature on here. Anyone who wants to read all your words has to literally scroll up a few inches.
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Interesting that you removed the ‘if he is a rapist’ part. I wonder why? Maybe you are an advocate for rape? I am not hence why I’d want Tate or any other rapist convicted.
False accusers should also be jailed as it is such a serious claim. Almost as serious as the crime itself. A rape claim can literally ruin somebody.
I quoted the bit I wanted to quote. I’m not interested in discussing the rest with you.
And if you say something like this to me or anyone other member again you’ll be getting a ban. You’re the one on here defending the guy who has been accused of this and no one has levelled this at you.
Absolute madness, yet you are allowed to insinuate that I wouldn’t want to see a rapist get locked up?
Based off your own words and actions in this thread I very much doubt you want to see Andrew Tate in prison. That’s the point I was making. That doesn’t make you an advocate for rape or a rapist.
I don’t want him locked up unless they can prove their case either. That’s the system we have and live in.
That makes absolutely zero sense. Why would I or anybody not want a rapist in jail? My actions in this topic? You know exactly what was insinuated with your post, yet you get offended when I insinuate the same.
You know exactly why you removed context from what I posted.
We are all Arsenal fans but I’m sure if one of our players were found guilty of a sex crime, we’d all want them punished. Or maybe me posting ‘no you don’t’ is perfectly acceptable.
I responded with humour initially but sorry, I’m not going to accept being framed as somebody prepared to back a r****t.
Anyway, NLD weekend.
Fair play Shamrock. I would hope people don’t dislike his message so much that they want him in jail regardless.
If he is guilty, lock him up.
As long as you’re aware that you absolutely look like you desperately don’t want him to be guilty and will cling on to anything.
Your 44 posts in this thread and their content make it clear you are at least just as invested in this as anybody else lol
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I’ll admit to leaning much more towards him being not guilty, but I don’t have the facts.
I’m just shocked at how much contempt that there is for the guy.
I repeat, I found out about his arrest on here. I was much more concerned about our Xmas schedule at the time.
All the legal matters could not exist and I’d think he’s an awful bloke based on the things he has said with his own mouth. There are so many examples, but just one would be him saying he’d take 80% of his girlfriends earnings if she did something like Only Fans, because if they are together she is his property, and her genitals etc are also his property so naturally he deserves a majority of any money earned from those body parts.
He rose to fame partially by bragging about how he would get women into sex work by first being their boyfriend and pretending to care about them, doing this with multiple women at a time, and subsequently manipulating them into working for his cam girl business and moving to an entirely new country where by his own admission they’re more lax on sex crimes and members of the justice system are more easily bribed. Legal or not, to me that is something only an awful cunt would do. He said something like 50% of his cam girl workers started off as his “girlfriend”. Even if it doesn’t meet any threshold for legal prosecution, it’s dirty business and I’d be thoroughly ashamed if my dad/brother/son did this for work, and feel figuratively murderous if someone like this got their claws into my mum/sister/daughter etc and manipulated and coerced her like this.
It really makes me wonder what the fuck your values are that you could be shocked that people would vehemently dislike such a vile misogynist (would you at least concede now that misogynist is an appropriate label after all?!)
I should acknowledge that you could be reflexively defending him in this thread without having actually really experienced much of his content at all, in some ways that would be easier for me to get my head around.
What is it that actually shocks you here? Do you think that there is a defence for the things I describe in the initial two paragraphs of my post?
He’s not just a little bit sexist, or old fashioned in his views, or a teeny bit right wing, meaning snowflakes hate him. He’s about as close to being an objectively awful bloke as you could find outside of a prison lol. So many of the things he says are genuinely awful, and you don’t need to be a lefty with a sensitive disposition to think that. IMO a person has to be at least half way down that based, red-pill rabbithole to not see the fundamental flaws in a person like Andrew Tate.
Leaving all moral judgements aside, he’s also just fucking cringe. He’s a fourteen year old twat’s idea of what masculinity looks like, but to most adults is abundantly clear that the man is driven almost entirely by ego and insecurity. It honestly baffles me that anyone capable of growing a beard and/or voting could treat this guy as some sort of role model. I die a little bit inside due to sheer second hand embarrassment when I see grown men going round saying “fReE tOp G” or “what colour is your bugatti?”, as if flexing another man’s luxury sports car isn’t just about the most pathetically beta thing you could ever do lmao.
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He said: “I’m not a rapist, but I like the idea of just being able to do what I want.”
No one should be starting a sentence with “I’m not a rapist, but…”
And let’s not forget he also said women should take some responsibility for being raped.
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Just am not bothered by him, Harry and Meghan, the other Royals, the Kardashian’ and any of these other so called influencers.
The problem for me is that people like this are so important.
Nothing to do with morals. Find it hard to hate or even love (bar Arsenal players, Ashanti or Floyd Mayweather) people who have no effect on my life. Have too many real world problems.
I’ve got the second highest number of posts in this thread, you’re number 1, 20 posts clear of me. The idea you aren’t at all bothered doesn’t really wash, at all, lol.
Your post generally feels like a cop out, but that’s fine. If you have too many real world problems to address anything I said then I expect we won’t be seeing much more of you in this thread, naturally.
A cop out from what though? Are you asking me if I think Tate is a role model?
My second highest post count is probably Martinelli and then after that it might be drag Queens! Don’t equate post count for how much I care: it’s Arsenal, Martinelli, ESR in that order!
It is very possible to not like somebody but not allow then to influence your time and emotions. Am not a fan of Prince Andrew but am not going to kick off on a forum if his name is bought up or do cartwheels in the street if he’s arrested. I’m amazed by how so many want him gone. Whether that be off the Internet or as a free civilian.
A good number of posts in here were responding to somebody who thought it was perfectly fine to at me with expletive-laden messages because this is a forum. The Internet amazes me. I’d be more impressed if that person swore at me in the flesh.
I don’t know what you want me to say? I don’t stand for rape or misogyny. I think it is horrible that the sex industry is so big and that young women are exploited. Opinion on people like Andrew Tate? I don’t see him as a role model but why should he be?
I do not LOVE Andrew Tate which is the polar opposite of Hate. Its the strong feeling that surprises me. Now, don’t get me wrong if somebody is an activist for women’s rights, speaks out against misogyny and wants to help desperate women in the sex industry and as a consequence hates Andrew Tate - makes sense.
If you’re an adult, with a bad carbon footprint, who uses prostitutes and/or subscribe to only fans or watch sex content, HATING him seems rich.
I reckon there are people on here who hate Andrew Tate more than they love Thierry Henry.