When a group of guys ask you what that orange thing in the sky is
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Get Rambo back get him fit and get him playing under Basque God 
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Such a shame how his career ended up. The guy was a great talent but once again injuries are the story of his career here. If only he coulda stayed healthy.
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Ramsey in the final 3rd was a madness
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Not only the amount of great goals he has scored, but also the variation. There are thirty yarders, left foot, right foot, volleys, flicked volleys, backheels/flicks with the ball on the floor, dinks, dribbles/nice bits of footwork, all sorts.
To me the variation indicates the talent he has, so while his game has obvious deficiencies, I feel his talent deserved to be showcased in a better career than Ramsey has ended up having.
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Wouldnât say injuries are the main story of his career here at all. Many great performances and moments - just as many (if not more) games of complacency and carelessness. Due to how important his contributions were most fans choose to forget how frustrating he was too. The ultimate mixed bag.
Personally I think his best form came when we had a hold up striker and a few creative playmakers in front of him/out wide so he could make late runs (the bread and butter to his success). If you look at the team composition in 2013-14 he slotted in perfectly.
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Not just the goals and qualities on the ball, but the runs heâd make from deep to open up spaces in the final third. Despite his deficiencies, definitely couldâve had a better career than he already has.
He ended up at what is one of the best five(?) clubs of this moment. He definitely hasnât got the talent to cut it at the Spanish big two. What more could his career have been?
More than just hypothetical for a start
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Yeah, I feel like Ramseyâs career was about what it shouldâve been. He reached his peak in 13-14 and at times from 14-18 (especially 16-18, 15-16 was a terrible season and 14-15 he had injuries + trying to do too much at times). Obviously injuries limited him, and continue to limit him, but that goes of a lot of players, and many players suffered just as bad injuries or worse and continued on (Thiago comes to mind)-- I wonder if there isnât something about Ramseyâs playing style or preparation that leads to so many muscular injuries.
He was a big talent and he showed it at times, but using Thiago again as an example I think those are two players whose career basically matches their talent, despite injuries. I think the Ramsey we saw in 16-18 was basically what his talent showed he would be in his mid to late 20s as a mature player. If people were expecting more perhaps they overrated his talent a bit, or forgot that Lampard took penalties and that his career mightâve looked something quite like Ramseyâs from 16-18 if they played under similar circumstances.
Ramseyâs goal output is also something that stopped him from establishing a good role in midfield.
We already had Ozil in an attacking position and once Cazorla got injured, we needee someone to take hold of midfield and I was hoping Ramsey does the mature thing & curb his attacking desires but that didnât happen.
Iâm referring to his Arsenal career, couldnât give a fuck what he does outside of this club.
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I dunno about that, I think that was just part of his personality as a player, which is fine. When he was playing well he was a good all around-midfielder, so I dunno about the âRamsey is greedy for goalsâ narrative.
He was just terribly shit in 15-16, in all areas. Who knows why. Probably not fully recovered from injury and sapped of confidence/trying too hard.
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That is what would have happened if he stayed fit. He would have left sooner. Like he did anyway.
Lol I donât care, like I said Iâm looking at him in the vacuum of Arsenal. Thought he was a great talent that would show these flashes of brilliance and then be off the pitch for months with a hamstring or something else.
LIST TIME BOYS
In terms of promising talents weâve had since 2000 where would you rate him
ELITE-- FĂ bregas, Diaby, RvP, Gnabry (in that order)
MAYBE ELITE?? â Wilshere, Nasri, Walcott, Vela, Jeff Reine Adelaide (in that order)
JUST BELOW ELITEâAdebayor
BELOW THAT, BUT INTERESTING-- Bendtner, Denilson, Song
Not including GKs and defenders nor Fran MĂ©rida because I canât be arsed.
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OVERRATED BY ARSENAL FANS â Walcott, Ramsey
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Ramsey is elite.
Big game player. Scored few in big matches. FA Cup winning goal. 100% effort for the club.
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Nasri was definitely the most overrated of the three, in retrospect.
Ramseyâs talent was overrated by Arsenal fans, but his actual production came to be rather underrated, like Walcottâs, perhaps for the same reason (their talent being overrated).
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