No Hard Feelings - fckn Gen Zs ?! Or are they Millenials ??
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Born in the mid 1980s, and not sure where I fall. But agree that majority of the new generation is a bunch of soft sh*ts
Iâm always quite shocked when I hear that someone hasnât seen certain filmsâŚI would give anything to go back and watch some classics for the first time!
I liked The Batman too, but would defo recommend you watch the original Tim Burton Batman film, and the sequel, Batman Returns, and of course the Christopher Nolan Batman Trilogy - Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and the Dark Knight rises. I think all of those are as good or much better than The BatmanâŚ
What else do we need to recommend for you
Obviously itâs all opinions but no way are Batman Returns and The Dark Knight Rises as good or much better than The Batman!
BR and TDKR are not great Batman films. BR cos its barely about Batman and TDKR cos itâs just generally a total mess lol.
I really enjoyed the dark, investigative style of The Batman.
Iâm not really a fan of the action movies as such, Iâve seen a bit of the Avengers movie (last one) and the battle scenes just donât do it for me. I do want to see the Dark Knight at some point though, purely for Heath Ledgerâs joker.
Gen X are the real losers in terms of generations.
Theyâre basically boomers that played by the boomer rules but got none of the economic output and wealth served on a silver platter for them like the boomers did.
Millennials and Gen Z are just cynical as fuck about everything because we know weâre fucked.
Always good to hear others opinions when it comes to films! I probably am in the minority when it comes to BR. A lot of people disliked the film when it was released. It was marketed as a family friendly film, which it clearly wasnât, and there were a lot of people unhappy at how dark the film was. The studio wasnât happy with the end result which is why they didnât hire Tim Burton to do Batman Forever (foolish decision IMO). Personally, I love the film, and it is Tim Burton at his gothic and darkest best. I liked the villains of the film, and never thought it suffered from the Spiderman 3 issue of having too many. All the main characters were well developed through the film, but this does take the focused away from Batman as a character, but I donât mind this.
Interesting you didnât like TDKR. Personally I thought it was excellent and finished the trilogy on a high. I loved Bane, and the story. The ending was perfect. It would have been interesting to see what Nolan would have done if Heath Ledger had still been alive, whether he would have brought the Joker back for a third film, but guess we will never know now.
As for The Batman, I thought it was good but not exceptional. It had some excellent moments in it, but I think it suffers from being too long, and the third act lets the film down. The sequel could easily fall into the trap of having too many villains. It will almost certainly have Catwoman and the Penguin back, plus there was a deleted scene with Barry Keoghan as the Joker, so he will feature in the sequel too (donât know how well known that is so blurring it in case). Good chance the Riddler will return as well. It was an enjoyable watch, so will be looking forward to the second one.
I liked that too, and that does set it apart from the others.
Iâm not a fan of any of The Avengers films, so if you didnât enjoy those, rest assured you are in safe hands with the other Batman films! Do watch Batman Begins first, before you see The Dark Knight thoughâŚ
I thought it was really quite bad haha.
Batman somehow escaping the nuke blast against all logic wasnât great, you canât carry a nuke on your vehicle, get into the final ten seconds of the countdown before dropping it and not get caught in the blast. It was unnecessary to try and force the audience into that big a suspension of disbelief when they see he somehow survived it. If youâre deadset on having him carry the nuke off away from the city and enter the final ten seconds before detonation, have the balls to let Batman die and end it on that note. Him making that ultimate sacrifice would have fit well with the trilogy as a whole.
And then the final scene with Alfred and him exchanging nods/smiles across the cafe was corny af and just far too on the nose. There was no need to give us such a neatly wrapped up happy ending. At the very least, they should have just shown Alfred look up from his coffee and smile/nod at an unseen figure, like was foreshadowed earlier in the film, but leaving a touch of ambiguity.
And before those events, Marion Cotillard gave us one of the most badly acted death scenes I think Iâve ever seen in a mainstream Hollywood film, though I could have overlooked that had the actual ending been good.
I could continue with stuff I thought wasnât good about that film but I should be doing other stuff this motning lol.
RE Batman Returns, part of my dislike for it is Burton somehow getting the most boring and least charasmatic performance ever out of Christopher Walken.
I didnât see Batman Begins for years after I watched The Dark Knight. Why do you think itâs essential?
Because (rather controversially), itâs the best film of the trilogy
Itâs not. Not even close.
Iâm one of those people who hasnât seen all the âgoodâ films either. Seen the Batman films. Love Marvel and anything related. But I havenât seen films like Godfather or any Indiana Jones films or Rocky.
ThatâsâŚwell, there are no words.
I wouldnât say that itâs at all necessary to watch Batman Begins first, because The Dark Knight stands alone quite well. Basically everyone knows Batman, same for Joker, you donât really need any backstory or set up and can just leap right in.
But I would absolutely recommend people watch Batman Begins first because itâs one of the best Batman films and a key part of the overall story of the trilogy. Itâs also got Cillian Murphy in it, which is always a good thing.
Itâs a good film, not saying it isnât. But I didnât feel like I needed to have watched it to have gotten everything out of the Dark Knight.
I watched all The Godfather films, which I hadnât seen for ages, and theyâre still excellent, despite their age, with top performances from all the actors.
But then saw Mean Streets, which was like a dated home movie, with very little story line and the main characters improvising nearly every scene.
I also recently watched 1917 and although it was good, the long action sequences were quite distracting because I spent most of it trying to work out the technical side of the camera shots and how it was edited, rather than the actual story itself, but still great.
There is a documentary on You Tube explaining how it was made, which is almost as long as the actual film itself, but also worth watching.
Agree with all this. 1917 is a fantastic war film.
All 3 godfathers are good and watchable. Did you watch the 2020 streamlined/edited version of Godfather 3? It essentially has less Sofia Coppolla in it, which can only be a good thing.
Mean Streets = crap (apart from Robert de Niro entering a bar in the Village to âJumpin Jack Flashâ by the Stones. Inspired move by Scorsese!)
I was about to defend myself and say Godfather wasnât on any streaming service. But I just checked and itâs on Paramount
Iâll get on it