Unpopular football opinions

What’s Glasner’s record in the Champions League though? :grimacing:

He’s a competent manager and I like what he is doing but managing a big club is a completely different animal.

You’re absolutely sure Arteta wouldn’t be able to do what Glasner is doing at Palace? Arteta won the FA cup while we were midtable too.

0 CL trophies ironically :smirking_face:

To be honest I’m taking the piss, but I’m not far off feeling this way lol

It’s one thing winning Cups and quite another winning the league, especially the Premier League. Every game you play, the opposition is either looking to raise their game or shutting up shop and playing ultra defensive. Then there’s the pressure of expectation, which will test your as a coach.

Glasner is an excellent coach but we don’t know if he has what it takes to coach a league winning team. TBH, we don’t know if Arteta has what it takes either :jorginho:

I would say that doing an excellent job at a small club is worlds apart from doing a good job at a huge one.

From my own experience, there have been several times that I’ve dropped down to a lower paid job dealing with simple insurance claims, over-achieved and really enjoyed my time there. I’ve had mixed results when taking a more intensive role with more responsibility dealing with a much larger claims budget on a higher wage. Eventually the pressure got to me, my judgement and calm under that pressure went to pot and I’m now looking for a lower grade job where I can over-achieve and be happy again.

That’s my level, we all have a level, we are all mere humans. Glasner could be me like me, a Palace-level guy doing a great job who goes to pieces under the expectations that come with a higher wage and a larger budget in a higher-profile position.

Glasner does appear a bit more tactically astute than your usual mid level manager to be fair. He’s not afraid to put his balls on the table during a media conference either lol

I really like him. Hopefully he doesn’t do something stupid like jump to united or Chelsea. I’d prefer if he didn’t go to city either tbh.

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Everytime when he made the step up he more than met the challenge tho. Got both Wolfsburg and Frankfurt to the Champions League, Champions League qualification isn’t a given for either of those clubs, won the EL with Frankfurt and the FA Cup with Palace obviously. I would say he probably exceeded expectations for every club he worked for and if he continues on that path a job at a top 6 club in the Premier League is incoming.

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I know, I’m not excluding his potential. He could well make another step-up some can, others can’t. If he manages to get Palace in the Champions League, he’ll be on my shopping list for our next manager.

I just don’t think it should be assumed that he’s better than Arteta based on a good season and a quarter with a smaller budget/squad. But let’s see where results take that debate over the course of this season.

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My unpopular opinions:

  • Any ‘top coach’ who joined Arsenal in Dec. 2019 under the same circumstances; would’ve won far more than we have by now if given the same budget and time.
  • Arteta’s training methods and the medical team, is the primary reason why we get so many injuries vs. other clubs
  • There should be near instant-VAR on corner, throw-in & GK claims
  • Pep is a fraud who has never had to ‘rebuild’ a team in his career
  • Football needs to invent boxing gloves for the head, because of how dangerous it is
  • Mbappe isn’t that good and is quite overrated. Same goes for Bellingham.
  • Thomas Frank and Glasner are excellent football coaches who could manage a top 5 team and get them into UCL spots if backed like continental coaches are

I’ve got to disagree, some of those aren’t unpopular opinions.

Bro wait till you hear about the game my people play.

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Most top coaches aren’t appropriate choices for a rebuild. Ancelotti, for all his greatness, would not make any sense at all club that required a total rebuild from start to finish.

You call Pep a fraud yet he’s a top coach. And you himself acknowledges he’s never had to rebuild yet you’re here saying any top coach could have done what Arteta has done?

Luis Enrique was very underwhelming at Roma in his earlier managerial career and was quick to wilt under pressure at Barcelona when it became clear they needed a rebuild.

It’s an impossible question to answer but there are plenty of coaches who’ve failed at rebuilds or who are grossly unsuitable to work in that kind of environment.

Whatever hatred you have for Arteta it’s weird to not acknowledge the fantastic job he’s done taking over a club that had been in complete shambles for a decade and returned it to be one of the best in European football.

It’s not an unpopular opinion it’s just a flat out bad one.

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That’s for letting me know once again that I’m not welcome here. It’s been a good, 18-year run. :sob:

In all seriousness, an opinion can be both ‘bad’ like your opinion is and unpopular at the same time.

I think if you give Pep, Mourinho, Conte - 6 years and £1bn quid, they’re bringing you titles. Guaranteed.

I think Pep is a fraud, but I can still acknowledge that he’s better than another fraud.

I think it’s strange to blindly support an employee like you’re related to him, rather than the institution you claim to support.

As I’ve said before. I’ll always be club first, employee second.

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Who the fuck doesn’t think this?

Lots of people support their players and current manager over the best interests of the club in the long run.

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Interesting reading through the last two unpopular discussion on Arteta

I also think none of them is going to be staying put for multiple seasons while a club completely rebuilds their squad in order to compete.

Conte is probably the most likely to have achieved something from where we were and I think they could all do it with our current squad obviously.

Arteta is not the only guy here but he does deserve credit for being part of a rebuild that has put us among the world’s best sides.

I hope he can adapt enough to finally get us over the line because this story deserves that kind of ending.

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Perhaps just expanding on this a little (and completely in line with it being an unpopular football opinion), I feel there is a need to ban heading in the game until the links to dementia are robustly disproven.

It would be a shame because we’ve seen some elegant headed goals over the weekend.

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This is true. That said, money talks. I think these guys would gladly take £10-£15m per year for 6 years and be given the opportunity to basically build a dynasty in the heart of London. I think if Arsenal came calling, most of these guys would drop everything to come to the carpet.

I thought that was where Mourinho’s jealousy of Wenger and Arsenal originally came from; cause every other club sacked him - often for ‘underperformance’; even though (in his view) Arsenal were rewarding failure.