U.S. Politics

What country is a great and fun place to live if ur poor btw? I’d like to move there. I can’t speak for other states but California has plenty of socialist programs to ensure impoverished ppl are taken care of. Lot’s of issues still but I think it’s overplayed by the media.

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The Netherlands and Scandinavia are nice countries to live in. Much of the EU for that matter.

I’ll take the Netherlands as an example as this is where I live.

Even if you’re poor. No work. The government will provide you with a place to live and an income to eat and get basic necessities. Healthcare is subsidized and nobody is afraid to get hospitalized.

Better than camp outside under a bridge in LA or on skid row.

Also little to no police brutality here.

It’s not a good country if you’re rich. It’s a great country.

California has programs for all these things. But comparing Netherlands to the US is apples to oranges. Netherlands has what 20m ppl, all very similar backgrounds and cultures. California has 40m ppl alone, all different cultures, races, backgrounds ect. It’s not a fair comparison.

Btw America is weird because it’s 50 different countries formed into a republic. It could work better but you’ve already hit the nail on the head. Will never be great because of the corruption.

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Is this true?

If it is, more evidence the people at the top don’t really care about this stuff. They just use their script on these issues to get votes and strong you along for power.

It’s a game to them and the consequences are felt by us.

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Yeah that’s true

Almost. 57 seats.

What would codify mean? Put the case law into a bill? Wouldn’t the supreme court still be able to say that that bill is in violation of the constitution?

Thought I’d look it up. It’s not completely accurate. On ‘paper’ they had 60-40 Senators. Originally it was 57 then one of the Republicans switched to Dems. 2 of them was Independents caucused with Dems. But the most significant one is one of the seats was contested and was only sworn in several months later. Which is when he had the ‘60’ majority.

So he had it but it wasn’t for 2 years. Only couple of months.

Obama did kick the can on the Freedom of Choice Act though.

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They also spent a ton of time on the ACA. It’s unfair to say he wasted time on it because the existing ACA is better than no ACA, but some of those Dem senators in the caucus wouldn’t have voted to codify Roe. You think Joe Manchin is a right leaning Dem? What about a guy like Joe Lieberman? Arlen Spector (former Republican).

Yeah the Dems shit the bed on this. There are a ton of sliding door moments for me. The failure to successfully pressure RBG to retire looms large. There should never be a single point of failure like she was at the court but her ego still really fucked us.

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I just don’t understand why religious people should get to control what other non-religious people do in America.

Incredibly weird.

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Forget non-religious people, there are religions that do allow and even require abortion access.

It’s really not about protecting children or babies or the sanctity of life or God or anything like that. It’s just about control. The religious stuff is just a cover.

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Simply put, America is fucked up. And those who shout ‘Land of the Free’ can kiss my arse. What world are they living in.

If it men were the ones who got pregnant:

And all those in favour of this ruling be like:

I don’t know how my brother-in-law prefers living in the US to the UK. Never moving back.

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This is so true. Especially when the alternative we got on our side are corrupt milquetoast ‘liberals’ who from the start know the best they will do to remain in power is just overturn the lad shit from the government before and not set their own agenda.

The right are setting the agenda.

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Gutted for the 70%+ Americans who disagree with the Supreme Court.
Maybe this is the nail in the coffin for the Republicans.
If Biden doesn’t move to swamp the Court with new appointees to stop the wave of far-right madness by Trump’s picks, then he needs to be pensioned off. Asleep at the wheel.

Doubt he will.

Because Dems aren’t like what people hope/think they are.

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I just don’t get the whole politicisation of justice. How can it possibly be impartial - justice is supposed to be that, isn’t it - when the supreme court gets stacked one way or the other? Hardly about fairness. Seems about right for America, though.

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The fear is this sets a precedent for other cases either in the Supreme Court or the circuit courts.

It’s not a far fetched idea that rights to gay marriage and even interracial marriage could be repealed.

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Nah. Clarence Thomas married a white lady. The Loving v. Virginia case was conspicuously absent from his bad faith opinion.

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