U.S. Politics

He’s not satisfying that “wet ass p-word”.

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These “lawmakers” are fucking scumbags.

When agenda & optics is more important than facts and responsibilities

Lol. Clown

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Interesting thread.

The hiding the Taliban are giving the Afghani government so soon after the US pulled out was so expected and just shows how futile all the years, money and lives sacrificed for that invasion and occupation were.

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Yeah I’ve been reading up on this recently. From the West’s POV not sure where we go from here.

It’s a real tragedy, and higighlights the complete failure of the the UK/US there. All the lifes lost, both in the army and Afghanistan nationals, in the name of nothing eventually.

Can only feel sorry for the people who will potentially have to live under taliban rule. Going to set back the country even further

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I think the only way to prevent this is to stay there permanently.

I will just say that there is no way, the Taliban could advance so rapidly with out local support. Most of the places they have captured have put up little to no resistance, it’s clear the locals prefer the Taliban to the Afghan gov. The Afghan government is steeped in corruption, nepotism and cronyism. Outside of Kabul Afghanistan is mostly destitute with little to no services, there are places that don’t even have roads let alone proper running water or electricity. Their armed forces are corrupt and they suffer from the same type of crap you saw in the Iraqi army and other armies in the Middle East that rely on US or foreign aid, which is “ghost soldiers”. Local commanders bring their relatives, sign them up as local soldiers, give them 20% of the wages and keep the rest. Keep the rifles and sell them off on the black market The Afghan security forces are supposedly around 300k but on the ground it’s more like 100k.

Honestly to me this isn’t a surprise, and announcing a deadline for withdrawal has basically crippled any chance the current government had to negotiate any terms for the Taliban who are just going to wait for the complete withdrawal.

Also there is no denying that Pakistan ISI has a heavy roll in funding, sheltering and hiding Taliban fighters. The Taliban are mostly a Pashtun ethnic group, and the Pashtun span across Afghanistan into Pakistan, with their numbers in Pakistan being more than that of Afghanistan. Guessing this is the reason why the Pakistan government takes such an interest in their activities.

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Are Canada the only country that is going out of its way to get the locals who assisted them, out of Afghanistan? Because to stay is akin to a death sentence.

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The UK has done so to plenty of “locally employed Afghan staff”

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Afganistan is a tribal society, sub nationalism> patriotism there, you cant expect them to fight tooth & nail with this corrupt Afgan govt. The United States didn’t understand ground reality of tribal afganistan. Tribal rivalries plus drug money for warlords & usa generals all added up to the failure of Afghanistan. The kabul regime is corrupt to the core.

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The sad thing is not long ago it was a pretty similar to a western society.

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Establishment news media is beating the war drums again. You know something’s up when the Washington Post and Fox News are pushing the same narrative about Afghanistan.

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It’s predictable. We’ll start hearing horror stories of what the Taliban are doing, and we’ll end up going back in.

Right, competition between the U.S. and Soviet Union during the Cold War is essentially why a once thriving culture and society like Afghanistan (and other nations) are primitive backwaters today.

There would be no Taliban if it weren’t for U.S. involvement there in the 70’s.

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The Swedish government first said no to give the Afghan interpreters, who helped our troops, asylum. After massive critique from the opposition they have now changed their minds.

The opposition in Sweden are right wing and very anti immigration, which tells that this critique is non other then populistic ahead of next years election.

Imo there’s no question, they should get asylum. But what if their extended families? Will they get targeted by the talibans?

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Yeah I’m very disappointed in how much opposition the left-wing socialist Danish government have shown in giving asylum to these Afghan interpreters.

I haven’t done enough reading to see why the government is so reluctant but to me it’s pretty cut and dry that these people who helped our troops during the war should be allowed to come to Denmark especially as the Taliban will just fucking cut their heads off once they’ve taken over the country again.

It’s not like they’re economic migrants from Pakistan or Turkey or whatever, looking to come up to Denmark because of our fantastic welfare system, they’re people who worked for the Danes and provided valuable assistance and who now face the ultimate cost.

Edit: Just wanted to add that I think the government has now agreed to take them in the last few days

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The UK of course is finding all sorted of excuses not to take them.

All it will mean is that next time nobody will want to help them

Also, what do these interventionalists who are piping up now again, want us to do over there? Everyone knew this was inevitable as soon as the US left.

Why are we pretending this wasn’t now, and that coming back in will only delay this too?

The Taliban can only be defeated by the Afghans in their own country, by losing support etc.

The entire reason they have been so successful taking over the country recently is that there is support for them. Certainly more than the support for the current Afghani government.