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I feel it’s much more likely that his friend Epstein had a video of him doing something much worse than getting wizzed on. And that that tape is now in the possession of intelligence in a certain Middle Eastern country that he has an irrational love and deference for.

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Now you’ve said that and thinking about patterns of behaviour that us humans get stuck into, perhaps both are true.

None of them will have anything to say.

Nobody can stand up to the might of the us.

You saw that mad shit they did to Iran with the b52 or whatever which flew across the world refueled mid air 3 times and got back to the US without anyone knowing anything.

But as you see, empires only do dumb and stupid shit like this when they are nearing their end

“Nobody can stand up to the might of the US”.

Is there a facility for an OA welfare check request?

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Hahahahaha

It’s true but.

Maybe China would annihilate them in a war of attrition on account of their greater industrial capacity.

However nobody seems to want to stand up to them right now.

Sometimes I wonder whether this trump regime is a covert Chinese or Russian operation. It’s worked out beautifully for them.

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It’s starting to look like Trump will go for Greenland.

Europe is so weak it is embarrassing at this point. Unwilling and unable to prevent Russia invading Ukraine and waging a war for 4 years. Unwilling and unable to prevent America walking in and taking Greenland if/when they decide.

The three major powers Russia, China, US will go around the world doing what they need to do to further their interests whilst all Europe can do is have an army of Beaurecats issue statements to the tune of

“We are closely monitoring the situation,

We urge for restraint,

This is against international law”

Desperate for nothing to happen internationally so they can all focus on collectively wrecking their domestic economies in peace.

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What are you thoughts on this @Cristo ? Because it seems inevitable at this stage

I really can’t believe this will actually happen.

2025 and the modern western world is still invading/conquering countries like it’s 1066.

Even within the context of an “America First” policy, seizing Greenland comes with such a high potential cost to the US.

It may not be practical for Europe to resist militarily, but once it’s done it effectively ends the alliance between the US and Europe. Surely that’s a national security net loss for America if it’s accompanied by the ends of deals for the US to station forces in European countries and so forth.

Loss of any security and economic benefits of the relationship with Europe hurts the US too. Politically it isolates the US with no major international allies.

All for something they could effectively already have. They don’t need to govern Greenland to be able to position forces there. Surely the Danish government would do a deal for the US to station anything it wanted in Greenland for national security and NATO security without the need for an invasion.

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I still think that’s the most likely outcome even with Trump in office.

I did watch one video a few weeks back suggesting this is all about shipping routes with the Artic ice melting more and more that route is becoming more feasible. I think if the US want to police that, let them at it basically.

I think you have a far superior tactical brain than anyone currently working or sleeping in the White House at the moment.

The Trump plan is. Me, me, me, me, me. The rest is just a bewildering and destructive chaos that surrounds him.

I didn’t know until I heard it on the news that Greenland is actually in the continent of North America and much closer to America than Denmark.

I thought it was right beside Denmark and couldn’t understand why Trump wanted it. I can now at least understand it

Europe will bend over and take it. The alliance will still be there because the Europeans know nothing else

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You can’t be in a military alliance with a country that’s invaded your territory.

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Of course they can, it’s just as much of a loss to Europe for it to end. Not like we can replace the US power with Chinese or Russian counterparts is it.

Eventually might be a blessing for Europe if it ever learns to stand on its own feet.

I honestly don’t know.

It’s silly because the existing agreements we have in place with the US are that they can have as many military bases and activities as they want up there and as many drilling licenses and rights etc. as they want - they just have to ask.

It seems like he genuinely just wants us to agree to a sale of it, even though he doesn’t need to haha like “here’s $500bn, we’ll take the deed to Greenland now”

We’ve let dozens of American (and Canadian, European, Australian etc) companies try to extract resources in Greenland but none have ever succeeded because the minerals are so deep down under ice and rock that you just can’t get at them. It’ll be decades before it ever becomes realistic and we might not even see it happen in our lifetime lol

Greenland is actually just a huge economic drain on Denmark and has been for many decades - 45% of their GDP is the £500m annual grant that they get from Denmark every year and all tax revenue etc. goes straight back into Greenland. We derive no economic gain from it really.

Geopolitically we’re an arctic nation because of Greenland and that gives us a little bit of additional clout, but ultimately absolutely nothing would change for Denmark as a nation or our citizens if we lost Greenland. It would simply be a matter of our national pride being hurt, the sting of a very important and long term allying stabbing us in the back and then worry over how the Americans will treat the Greenlanders. Overall we’d be quids in though.

Now, from a realistic standpoint invading Denmark is a different proposition to Venezuela and Iran ofc. There won’t be as much support at home to invade a long term NATO ally who lost soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan with the US, and as a part of the EU you would hope that the EU might finally stand up for itself and threaten the US with dumping their treasury bonds and closing access to their European bases.

This grandstanding and rhetoric against a NATO ally has gone on long enough and if I was the EU/UK leaders I’d put together a small coalition of European troops (couple hundred each from UK, FR, DE, PL, SE, DK etc.) and station them in Greenland. Then I’d also say that if Trump moves against Greenland, we’ll start dumping US treasuries and close their bases in Europe.

They’ll never do that in a million years because they’d be scared of provoking Trump and “escalating” but that is a load of nonsense because Trump and Putin have been escalating all around us for ages now and we keep getting our lunch stolen because we’re a load of fucking wetters.

Maybe they might threaten to do the bond thing if he actually puts troops on Greenland. China did that during the tariff wars last year and it was the only thing that got Trump to back off. The bond market was also what got Liz Truss sacked. The bond mark is controls everything and it’s something you can threaten to do quite easily.

But yeah, I guess we’ll have to wait and see now but nothing surprises me anymore. I would not be shocked to wake up in a month to a headline about Greenland having been taken.

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Thank you for the insight. Very helpful

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If he does take Greenland without much fuss then who’s next?

Trump is showing the same traits as previous psychopathic leaders but with a lot more military power behind him, so if he gets a taste for it and there is very little resistance, he’s exactly the sort of person that if he did want more, he’d go and get it.