Nice defence of liberal democracy there.
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This is just the Trump administration seeing how far they can over-reach the Presidential powers.
It’s all leading-up to the Orange Elvis declaring a State of Emergency for the mid-terms.
If it wasn’t already, the United States become a crackpot dictatorship last night.
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Those midterms are going to give us a very clear idea of the direction we’re going in for the long term. Always presuming that they happen.
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@Cristo Not to engage in a pile-on or a gotcha but this position is curious when we consider not too long ago the U.S was talking about taking Greenland and Europeans were acting spooked.
You won’t see me miss the Maduro regime, they setup what was most definitely a fake referendum to justify in the future taking half of Guyana. It’s just interesting see the double standards at play.
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Sorry the presentation of this is comedic.
‘We’ve attacked Venezuela, captured President Maduro and his wife’
‘Thank you for your attention to this matter!’
Just need YMCA to play now. 
fucks sake.
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Top G, Donald Trump. This stuff doesn’t even seem real. Maybe Putin needs to remind him who the real don is again.
I think todays events just highlights why Europe needs to unite even more closely. The USA are not our allies. We need to look after our own interests and re-build our relationships with Europe.
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Earlier today I saw this quote. Jesus H. Christ. Scroll down to below the photo in the article.
Speaking in telephone interviews with Fox News and Fox & ..
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Can someone kidnap Trump? Or Netenyahu?
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Fair point
This arrest was a good thing to happen on so many levels. The lefts hate of trump clouds their judgement too much. There are leftists protesting this arrest in New York whilst not having a single understanding of why this has happened or why they should actually be celebrating this.
https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/2007446126719336576?s=46
People like this are completely clueless.
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Team America! Fuck yea!
This is the same kind of language that was used when Gaddafi was deposed and when Saddam Hussein was too. And I imagine the same anytime US intervenes to depose a state leader. Talk about how great it is that a dictator has gone and how the people are so happy yet look at those two countries just as recent examples.
This isn’t about defending authoritarian leaders it is simply that US led interventions have never led to better outcomes for the ordinary population. So I don’t see why people are celebrating it outside of the fact it increases America sphere of influence (and I don’t want an of the worlds superpowers to do that)
If you look at Libya that have never recovered and US intervention has turned Libya into a literal hellhole and a dangerous place for people to live. The Iraq war led to the displacement and deaths of I believe millions and constant civil war.
This isn’t to be celebrated because it isn’t being done for good moral reasoning. If the US arrested Maduro and did a job facilitating fair elections where the Venezuelan people can choose their own future then I’d be as happy as anyone.
It’s just more meddling from America that doesn’t actually make anyone’s lives better whilst ensuring their political control on the region is strong and their pockets are lined again and again.
I don’t have any love for Russia or China but I also don’t for America and it’s history of imperialism which has ruined so much of the world.
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Its obviously not true that american intervensions have never had positive outcomes, focusing on the americas since this is about Venezuela there have been many across Central, Southern America and Caribbean over decades. The whole region is now incredibly stable compared to historical standards with virtually every country a democraticaly elected goverments not being directly run by cartels dictatorships or the military.
Venezuelans have an infinetely better chance for a better future today, than they did yesterday.
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@JakeyBoy you’re probably right, this is all I care about:
And this
Let’s see what happens with whoever they install and what their policies are like.
@KITN you were literally calling Venezuelan refugees in this thread capitalist traitors earlier on, are you maybe just a tankie upset that yet another oppressive communist regime has fallen?
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I’m sure Kim Jong Un is next…
Wait, is there oil in N.Korea?
I just see this as a case of confusing correlation with causation. Just because there are elections and supposed democracies in Latin America today doesn’t really do much to vindicate the proxy wars, sanctions and coups that basically empowered cartels and political crooks. The entire region is rife with mass migration, cartel influence of governing and high violent crime so I don’t really see this as being successful intervention at all.
The chaos in Latin America is a legacy of American intervention in my eyes.
And re: the point in liberal democracies - I don’t really agree with that either. Many of the regions don’t have anything resembling a proper democracy the elections there are still political prisoners, rigged elections and the obvious cartel influence.
Hell, Trump even pardoned the cartel lackey former Honduran president who was actively involved in the flow of drugs to the United States.
To reiterate - I have nothing but contempt for Maduro. I just cannot bring myself to read the same language we’ve been reading for decades now when leaders are deposed by America. It’s the same playbook.
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One of those situations where defenders of the invasion will point to the fact that it wasn’t an illegal regime change and it wasn’t an illegal invasion but then point out how great it is that the President of that Country is out of control now. Well, it is great that Madura is no longer in power but…
I find out the bloke living next door is a nonce and a drug dealer. I don’t want him living there anymore, none of my neighbours do. So I break into his home, detain him, bring him back to my place and put him in the basement for an indefinite period. I then move my furniture into his house and say “I’m running this now”, then put his property on the market and pocket the money.
I don’t think the Police will accept my response of “Well, nobody wanted him there, so I sorted that out” before arresting me. Trump, should have gone to Congress to get authority, should have made NATO allies aware and should abide by the law of the Geneva Convention.
As with the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the UK and US, the ends don’t justify the means if it requires you to break the law.
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