Don’t feel bad for him, an average footballer lucky to play so much of his career at a club as big as Arsenal.
Lots of players at his ability will never play for a club of this stature, let alone for over half a decade or whatever it was.
I think in defence, Ben White slots in nicely now.
Hopefully, with Tomi back and the likes of Zinny/Timber (with Kiwior as back up), we have strength in full back and centre back.
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I don’t agree with your logic.
Being bad (or I say not good enough), is not a sin, nor at fault.
For me, being bad/not good enough, has no correlation with being a subject for bashing.
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I’d put at least 75% of it on him.
Sounds like we are putting a sergeant in death penalty because he “lost” the battle, but the captains and generals are all immune to criticism and responsibilities.
I look at it more like driving on a donut. Your car can only go a certain number of miles and only at certain speeds with a donut on, not because the donut is faulty but because it’s not as strong as a real tire.
Holding is a donut in this scenario. It’s not that he’s a bad person, he just wasn’t good enough to play in our backline last year and it ultimately unbalanced the team.
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Did he ask to play ahead of any player?
Was he the one who set up the team?
Taking care of tactics and transfer?
Everyone knew he was not good enough and just a filler.
Same like Rice, Jorginho, Partey, are all out and then we blame Elneny lost the game for us.
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Elneny another one who isn’t good enough to play any meaningful action for this club and he’ll be moved in this summer like Holding was last summer.
God I love the direction this club is going.
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That’s why I’d only blame him 75%, it’s not his fault he unbalanced the backline, he’s just not good enough. I’m sure he’s a lovely guy but he should have been cut loose after that Spurs match a few years ago when he got sent off.
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For those who think Liverpool will struggle for a few years post Klopp and that Pep might leave City in another season or two, and that might present us a good chance to win the league, I say fuck that. We do this now, we win or at least go all the way till the end, in spite of Pep and Klopp being here.
The standards we have set in the last few games for work rate, professionalism, team work should be the bare minimum going forward. We have the quality and we have some depth. So if lady luck smiles at us with regard to injuries, especially to Odegaard and Saka, we should have no excuse to not take this race all the way to the end.
On paper, City remain favourites, have more quality in their squad, and have a better manager, but on the pitch, we are better than them at the moment. We play them after the international break which will disrupt our momentum but that shouldn’t be an excuse.
We have more than enough quality to beat any team in the league, home or away. And now we’ve added consistency and ruthlessness to that. I know it’s easier said than done but we have to believe we can do this, or at least push City all the way to the last game of the season.
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Exactly.
We just all in and do our best.
Whatever outcome it is, who knows.
Games over before stepping on to the pitch.
https://twitter.com/yankeegunner/status/1765122446259040338?s=46
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“When your mate’s gone to the bar and he hasn’t got you a round”
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Boner inducing 
We’ve gone a long way from Wenger wasting transfer windows accumulating inadequate players, to the urgency of Arteta making top quality signings with the winning mentality needed to win the title, rather than accepting fourth place as some sort of trophy.
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You speak as if Wenger had the same financial muscle as Teta.
Teta just replaced 35m pounds Ramsdale with 35m pounds Raya. It wasn’t even necessary but Raya is here just because he felt like it.
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Wenger wasted record amounts on Lacazette, Xhaka, Chambers and Mustafi, as well as plenty of inadequate defensive signings, so he had plenty of money.
He also ignored positions we were desperate for quality in, despite saying we could compete with any club in the transfer market.
Also, Arteta had to spend big to undo the mess that Wenger had made and dismantle the squad of lazy, complacent players, on massive wages, who were no where near top four quality.
As for spending 35m on Raya, we’ll get at least that when we sell Ramsdale.
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This team is brewing something special.
Got to love to see it unfold in real time.
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You are counting what Wenger did over multiple transfer window.
Teta just spent 250m in a single window on 4 players.
What coach will complain about deadwoods to clear when they have 700m to do it. Whereas Wenger had to rely on new acholic anonymous program to get his squad right when he arrived.
And easy for Chambers to be a record signing when you have never paid more than 18m on a single player prior to 2013.
Teta has a massive massive massive massive financial advantage over Wenger and you shouldn’t deny it unless you wish to be obtuse.
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Why are people arguing about Arteta and Wenger here?
Wenger worked under severe limitations compared to other big clubs for the majority of his time at Arsenal.
Arteta took over the club just a couple points off relegation zone has turned the team into one of the best in the world, and Wenger wasn’t the guy he took over from.
Wenger did an incredible job for us and Arteta is on his way to do the same.
If you want to hate on somebody, hate on Gazidis, Sanllehi, Mislintat and Emery.
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