The most offensive thing about that comment is that most of those strippers have horrible fake tits. I’m taking issue on the grounds of taste rather than offence.
Lols aside, well jealous of you watching this through for the first time, such an incredible show. Enjoy mate.
Agreed some of them are awful, but some of them are natural beautiful breasts. Usually it’s Tony’s goomahs that have the natural breasts.
In any case I really miss 80s and 90s tv and film where they just got boobs out for the sake of boobs.
But yeah this is a fantastic show. So compelling and immersive to watch and yet still so easy to watch. Rare to find a show like this.
There is a great story involving Ralph Cifereto (sp?) and one of the strippers as the series progresses.
New title for memoir: I put out intentionally provocative shit takes and pretend to be outraged about men replying to me.
I noticed Barney Ronay (Guardian Sports journo) replied to disagree, and she engaged with him as if his opinion counted, despite him being a man???
Its almost as if she doesn’t even believe in her second tweet, as she’s not calling Barney out for mansplaining Carrie Bradshaw…
I’ve got a lot of time for women when they complain about “mansplaining” if we’re talking about period poverty, or some such issue where there clearly is no call for men to wade in like they are experts when they aren’t, but we’re critiquing two nineties HBO shows here ffs and she comes across like she hasn’t got a solitary fucking clue about The Sopranos and the themes it explores. Its a far deeper show than SATC, and I have seen both in their entirety, I actually quite enjoyed SATC for what it is lol
BTW, my gf sent me this cos its an awful take, just so happens this thread is also active atm so figured I’d share lol
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone describe Sex and The City as embarrassingly retro and offensive?!
I’ve only ever seen it heralded as some sort of symbol of female empowerment and feminism so I don’t know where’s she getting this from.
You’re right, definitely a shit take from someone who’s bored and wants to stir shit to get some attention. The Sopranos also doesn’t portray the guys in the show in a good light when they’re shagging prostitutes compared to SATC make all the women look like sexually empowered deities for shagging men.
It’s got the extent where any debate with a female can be shutdown with ‘don’t mansplain to me’ in order to shut down any conversation. In short a cunts trick
I think it was hailed as such initially, and people still recognise that it had that impact at the time, saying it broke the mould and paved the way for other shows to follow. It was unashamed in discussing sex etc, and it was groundbreaking to have a show do that from a woman’s perspective back then.
I think when viewed now it doesn’t have that same impact, because twenty odd years on it isn’t taboo in the same way to have women openly discussing sex, so it doesn’t quite have that same feminist impact. Through a 2020 feminist lens, they basically spend all their time talking about men as if there’s nothing else that matters as much, and they’re also four wealthy white women, so the show’s feminism isn’t intersectional and says little about the lives of most women. So in some respects, I have seen people reappraise the show, the above is the gist of bits I’ve read from feminists. I think its also sometimes more harshly assessed after the abomination which was the second SATC film, which really did seem totally tone deaf on every level, and really did make the show look very dated.
Thats how my gf views it, but she was also like, “its ok to just say ‘I like this show’, you don’t have to defend it as a timeless political statement thats as relevant now as it once was. Its OK to just like SATC without drawing stupid comparisons to much better shows like Sopranos”
Exactly, which is why the show isn’t dated like SATC is. Back when it aired we weren’t meant to view these guys as being good, they were pieces of shit then and they’re still pieces of shit through a modern, 2020 lens.
Is there a letter in front of Soprano or just a number?
Just a number.
The scene where Meadow brings black the black guy from college.
Holy shit.
Lad of should of tried to crack Tony for that tbf
Fucking love how Ralphie is so fucking obsessed with Gladiator 
Definitely gonna get killed sooner rather than later with the way he talks to people.
I love the way how the show treats race as well. Tony and his boys are constantly whinging about the plight of Italians in America, talking about how racist the police are and how victimised Italians are and yet they’re constantly chatting utter shit shit about blacks, Chinese etc. implying black people are more inherently predisposed to crime and so on.
Really reflects my own experience of minorities views and their hypocrisy from my time in America.
There is a lot of racism among minorities, unfortunately and not much by way of solidarity.
The recent cases of what Ibrahimovic said to Lukaku and the vile stuff Kangana Ranaut has tweeted about Rihanna are two examples that come to mind.
The pyschology and rationalisation behind the racism is a really accurate portrayal of how racist thoughts manifest. The ‘them versus us’ is also a deep residing part of many peoples outlook. That alongside understanding an injustice from your perspective but not having the empathy to see it from other peoples perspectives.
I don’t think you could make a mainstream program like this today. The homophobia, racism and misogyny would get too many twitter rants
Series 2 has to be the best one, all in all, doesn’t it?
A plethora of characters before they start weaning off.
Tony’s mam, Tony’s sister, Uncle Jun, Richie Aprile, Pussy. Even the bad guy from Terminator 2 was good.
I’m only half way through season 3 so far but I’d say that season has been my favourite as well.
Perfect pacing and tempo I’d say.
How are you Southerners managing to steal our northern ‘mam’ word . Or me eloquently put ‘me mam’. My granny always used to ask ‘how are baines’. Do you lot know what means? LOL
Anyway Tony’s mother is the heartbeat of David Chase’s story. It’s based on Chase’s own mother who had Narcissistic Personality Disorder and the more you learn about that the more you understand her character. And she’s probably the most multi-faceted character in the show alongside Tony. She only was written out because the actress died in real life. Otherwise she would of been a character throughout the whole show. I’d say after Tony she is the second best character in the show. A great actress with great direction
I’m not sure which series is the best. As you know I consider the first episode the best one.
That’s a Sikh surname, isn’t it? Lol
I think people say ‘College’ is widely regarded as the best episode. Didn’t the very first episode have an annoying narrative voice-over?
I watched the D-girl episode again recently. Does she end up splitting up with Chris’ cousin as well? What a skank!
Ralph Cifaretto: “I was supposed to go over there for Thanksgiving. Me and Ro. Fuck Tony and his turkey. I ought to shove a drumstick up his ass”
