What has changed?
Basically a comfort zone. Even at a lesser level as friends, we do this. We literally bully and insult each other. Saying and doing stuff that we wouldnât otherwise do with anyone else.
If a relationship or friendship doesnât work, you can use hindsight & isolate these incidents and call them toxic.
If all of us just try to recall our interactions with our respective partners, you will find n number of incidents which you would think would be disrespectful to a stranger.
Either way - whether it is genuinely an attempt to be disrespectful or not - there is no point indulging in it.
Good in bed? The crazy oneâs usually are.
Seriously though, I think we all have those Exâs we look back on and think âWTF was I thinking?â
Being at University and being apart of the âmeat marketâ opened my eyes about dating in general and SMV. I developed a better understanding of what I want from a woman and the social dynamics at play when people date. My social skills become very refined and I took life alot less seriously generally.
I use to develop very unhealthy infatuations because I didnât understand girls, I was the type of kid in primary school that would be mean to a girl I liked because of struggled to process my internal feeling in a social way. I went to an all boys for secondary so socialization with girls didnât improve and âpopular cultureâ dictated my impression of the opposite sex generally.
I just have a better understanding of the world, emotional discipline, human nature and what people need/want plus I have a career with good earnings.
Same. I had only had one boyfriend before uni. And he asked me out. I didnât date.
At uni I became a cheerleader. Because there was no dance club. And men apparently love that. So I was being asked on dates a lot, which was new to me.
I saw men in a whole new light. And like you said, it made me see what I liked and what I didnât.
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911, there has been a murder. We need emergency assistance.

opened my eyes about dating in general and SMV
What this?
I remember this girl I liked for a while. We never spoke until she DMâd me on Instagram one day. I was gassed and then we finally went out and had a 10/10 date and I dropped her home and we went out a couple more times and everything went perfect.
I went to the o2 with her one day because I was genuinely craving crĂšme brĂ»lĂ©e from cafe rouge. So she caught the train because I didnât wanna drive to pick her up in SW London and we met up. I had my crĂšme brĂ»lĂ©e and she didnât get anything. We left the venue and suddenly she went complete quiet for a couple mins. I asked what was up and she gave the usual ânothingâ.
I went home that night and got a call from one of my friends and the first thing he says was âyes bro you smashed that (insert name here) girl too?â And I had to act like I barely liked her. And he told me how he met her at a festival a year ago and pressed her that night.
Safe to say that when I messaged her that night she knew exactly what I was gonna say and we never spoke again.
At the time I was immature so what annoyed me the most is she made me wait 3 dates but let my friend go there the first night lol. Now in hindsight Iâm just annoyed she knew he was my friend and never said anything.
That was the starkest warning I ever had that the streets have sympathy for nobody
Sexual Marketplace Value, a crude non-scientific way to measure attractability beyond just looks especially when it comes to dating.
Itâs predicated on the idea that short term dating is somewhat transactional when you peel away the idealist boy meet girl âfluffâ
Bloody hell. I didnât know this was a thing. Iâm glad that Iâm smart and funny then. Iâd score highly.

Sexual Marketplace Value
Sounds like incel terminology no offence
Goes by many names and has exsited in some form but it true SMV specifically is seen as a pejorative because red pill/incel types have appropriated the concept to purely objectify women and limit them to purely âtraditionalâ gender roles
Yeah, anytime people start using marketplace terms or economic terms to talk about dating I get a little skeeved out.
I donât know about economic but all human relationships are essentially transactional in nature and that reflective in a unseen marketplace either overtly or covertly.
It a unromantic concept but for most people thereâs a long list of suitable partners who have the ability to be the âlove of your lifeâ at any given time depending variables
Yeah I get that, but Iâm a hopeless romantic at heart so anytime I hear stuff like HVM or SMV or anything related to Pick Up Artists or stuff like that it weirds me out.

Question for OAâŠ
Whatâs the worst date youâve ever been on?
Ive never been on a bad date where I met the person IRL and proceeded to date them. Only weird experiences iâve had are with ppl iâve met online. In my online dating days, full disclosure, I wasnt looking for anything serious so very possible that my mind wasnt in the right place. However, I once went on a date with an absolute gorgeous woman, but she was so fucking weird that I was turned off within like 1 minute of me picking her up. She got into my car and immediately grabbed my hand and wouldnât let go of it. She wanted to hold my hand like we were 14 year olds going steady we had spoken on the phone several times and had gotten along fine but she made it so akward i was looking for ways to end the date fast. Texted my friend to call me and act like he had car trouble and needed my to go pick him up. Got out of there in a hurry, she was hot looking back on it tho, wish Iâd have stomached it out and clapped them cheeks tbh

Only weird experiences iâve had are with ppl iâve met online
Same for me. I met Meredith online and I am weird AF.

Question for OAâŠ
Whatâs the worst date youâve ever been on?
I donât know which one to pick haha.
I will go with my first date ever. And my first kiss.
We were both 15. It was dark. I walked her home to her door (apartment building door). We stopped at the door and kissed. She had her back to the door. At one point, a man opened the door, walked out and saw us. We crosses eyes as I was kissing her, then he went back in. Later i found out it was her father.
The question wasnât whatâs the worst date for the father?