Win the jackpot thinking we got the car and end up with a touring caravan that’s no good to us.
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Or a speedboat when we live in Tamworth.
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.@gunnerblog: Arsenal would consider a return to the Champions League for 2022-23 as being ahead of schedule. A top-six place would not only keep Arteta at the club — it would almost certainly mean a new contract.”
Graham: Takes us from mid table to League title in two seasons, spending almost no money.
Wenger: Takes us from mid table to double winners in just over a season, spending almost no money.
Arteta: Takes us from fifth place to successive mid table finishes, spending 200m.
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This is all on the board tbh. Such shit expectations at the top really highly how badly run we are, and in fact have been for the best part of a decade now.
Hard to see a significant turnaround in our fortunes until the whole structure and ownership of the club changes tbh
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Honestly, he should have been gone after Burnley. Would have given ample time for a new manager to come in, sign players and salvage the season.
This. F’ckin. Club.
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What manager would you have gotten?
Anyone who had the balls to sign someone in the transfer window.
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The only reason so much patience is being invested in him is he is a suck up to the Kroenkes. There is no logical justification outside this. He’s never come close to making the most from what he has, he has arguably cost the club several tens of millions of pounds in the way certain assets have been depreciated and in the end sold dirt cheap, and even with the small chance that things come good what is the guarantee he won’t go elsewhere anyway?
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A cheap “yes man”. Complements (and probably compliments) those at the executive level.
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I don’t think you need to be much of a yes man. You just need to constantly harp on about the poison at this club runs deep and everything needs ground up rebuilding and keep convincing them to buy into it.
If we’re talking about Arteta and a process, this is the only one that really makes sense. Wholesale attitude change and standards across the football side of things.
Auba the latest link in that chain but next season will be the first one where we’re looking at a bunch of Arteta’s good boys and I think his scrutiny will start then because there will be no other distractions.
To be honest though aren’t we already past that? If your whole club malfunctions because one player is late a couple of times you already have every symptom that shit has gone south, you cannot be that sensitive? Or, I’d want more robustness anyway.
I never heard the board complain about this as one of the main obstacles to our success though, and I do believe that if you hire a manager you need to give them some actual support to let them modify their team a bit as well.
But now it’s like “the squad is bad”, well we made it bad again then, because we shifted out 30 players since last time “the squad was bad”, maybe it’s time to look at why the squad goes bad. I wouldn’t be surprised if we find some bad boys next season as well the moment things begin to look grim.
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We see it in our daily jobs, sucking up to the right people can definitely get you places.
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Arteta doesn’t have to kiss Josh Kroenke’s ass, he is doing largely what Josh Kroenke wants.
In American sports when your roster is a dumpster fire (as it was at Arsenal prior to Arteta), the generic playbook is to deprioritize short term results for a couple seasons, try to add young talent in any way you can, get rid of bad contracts and trim the wage bill, and try to bring through a new cohort of younger players with the idea of eventually making some big moves that could put you over the top. There are of course differences across sports in terms of salary cap, roster size, draft, etc but versions of that strategy are commonly employed in baseball, American football, basketball, and hockey.
You can argue it doesn’t work in football for all sorts of reasons and you might be right. But for somebody like Josh Kroenke what we’re currently doing fits 100% with his worldview and experience. In fact, he is probably encouraging if not spearheading this strategy in a lot of ways. He doesn’t need Arteta to kiss his ass to justify carrying it out.
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100% agree that you don’t sack him in the middle of the season unless you are in danger of relegation or something. Bringing in an interim manager won’t help. You sack Arteta at the end of the season when there will be movement.
Ten Haag would be the guy you go for either that or just take a flyer on Poch cuz he’ll be available. Arsenal is much more his speed than a squad like PSG, and I just like the factor of him being a former scum manager. They would be so mad if he brought us success 
Really time for Arteta to start delivering
He’s being out performed by all of Moyes, Klopp, Tuchel, Potter, Gerard and Conte right now.
Probably by Guardiola too although his squad is so good even Arteta would get top 2 with them.
I’d argue though that Conte and Tuchel are a bit like Mourinho and usually have limited shelf lives.
Even Hauf Haus at Southampton is probably doing better pound for pound wise.
Need to see a really strong run in to deserve passing go in the Summer.
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What do u think the chances are that Arteta falls to 8th, and the club moves the goal posts again and gives him an extension anyways? This club and Arteta are two peas in a pod. They love to say one thing then pretend they never said it a few months later and try to pull the rug out from under their supporters feet. I mean I can’t blame them, the majority of Arsenal fanatics fall for it time after time rip 
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There’s every chance this scenario is the one that unfolds. Couple injuries/suspensions away from free fall.
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i mean he want to get high up this season, but im not sure if he will be able to. what do you guys think?
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This 
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I see Arteta still has the fanbase on strings. We are going below wolves if we get trumped next week?