thatâs a good point, well remembered @shamrockgooner
My wife being Chinese has this problem often in the UK. I have family who have known her for five years who still say her name wrong or resort to a nickname, and she has some colleagues who get her name wrong too. Some people, like my family, are, I think, legitimately trying and have just accepted the easy option of a nickname probably to not cause offense. Her colleagues are just lazy as I donât think they are even aware that they get it wrong. There are also genuine cases of names being really fucking hard to say. I once had a Portuguese friend called Joao. I butchered the pronunciation of the âoaoâ sound so often, he eventually insisted I use a nickname.
She pronounces the name incorrectly herself.
Itâs neither KAmalA nor KamAlA, itâs KamalA.
I sympathise with Indians who live abroad. They just donât grasp the subtle nature of âswarâ and âvyanjansâ of our language.
Regarding the topic
I am with sham. I donât see anything wrong with asking.
Personally I donât feel comfortable asking someoneâs nickname unless I have a good cordial relationship with them. I would take their proper name regardless how hard it is.
How did you miss out on Cocke?
I think everyone is pretty.much in agreement on this one. If you make no effort to learn someoneâs name and immediately ask them for an option thats easier for you, youâre a rude bellend.
If someone makes sincere efforts but canât pronounce a name that contains sounds that are very uncommon or donât exist in their language its a different story, there are going to sometimes be foreign names that are very difficult for people to pronounce. In those instances Iâve always found the person whose name is tough to pronounce to be understanding.
I canât say this for sure as someoneâs whose name is easy to pronounce, but I think that the vast majority of people will be understanding as long as people have made a genuine effort to pronounce their name, and will only be annoyed when itâs clear people donât even care about trying to get it right, like this prat off Love Island.
I remember this poor kid at school called Mayooran who just gave up trying to stop getting people calling him âmy-urineâ. Secondary school kids are cunts, what can I say, its probably not wholly relevant in this thread lol.
When I met my boy @Cristo he told me his full name and itâs a real tough one to say without practice.
Fully get why he shortens it to âJayâ. I have a ten letter Sikh first name but itâs actually quite easy to say if you literally know how to read. I remember when the register needed to be taken at school and it was a new teacher, when they got to my name, I could see the cogs turning and Iâd just pre-empt them with âKam for short, sirâ.
My very traditional Sikh name has been mispronounced as fucking Kenneth before, and I just prefer to go in with my nickname straight off the bat. Saves hassle and doesnât offend me personally tbh.
This isnât the same at all as its the same name and doesnât sound different but I find it annoying a.f. when someone puts down two Lâs in my name without asking first lol
Tbf there used to be a footballer playing for Aston Villa in the 90âs with mine and @Cristos name, but in his case it was his surname. If I remember correctly the commentators did pronounce it fairly correct :laca2:
We just went with nicknames
Iâm sure an intelligent and well travelled bloke like Cristo would have pronounced it easily. But we both went with nicknames then sang Gold with a bunch of randomers
Fuck yeah that was funny! That was in that bar near Bank wasnât it? Harryâs Bar or something? Proper little dive lol good atmosphere though haha
Yeah man, think it was ÂŁ5 something for a pint of Asahi. By City standards, was a good price for a quality pint, never been back there though
Bakke? Leonardson?
Milosevic Cristofferssen.
Joachim?
Ding ding
Like Fulhamâs captain funnily enough
He was a good little player. Scored against us in late 98, too
His finest moment was probably Leicester Cityâs play off final against Swindon in 93. Swindon won it, but it was a great game and great performance by Joachim.
Burst on to the scene didnât he?
Youâre footballing knowledge never ceases to impress haha
Although Iâm talking about the current Fulham captain, Joachim Andersen