Premier League 2022/23

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My bad.

UK is racist and doesnā€™t allow people from doing what they are not interested in doing.

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No, they went into media instead.

Darren Moore, a black manager, beating Newcastle as we speak.

you look lovely my sweetness

Iā€™m sure if Rio Ferdinand has his coaching badges, and wanted to try his hand at managing, there would be a host of clubs willing to give him a try.

The idea that the white man is holding him back is ludicrous.

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so I needlessly snipped at you?

Let me edit that

Can you elaborate on this. What do you mean by real boys club feel?

Any time someone makes the claim
Black managers arenā€™t good enough to compete with the best you have to remember that Frank Lampard was hired not once but twice by PL clubs.

@Stroller the whole organization appears to be lacking in any real desire for transparency. It extends to the way they handle big mistakes, donā€™t allow officials to face questions and even punish officials not by suspension but by dropping them into a lower division to inflict their blunders on smaller clubs. And when you have officials getting all chummy with players, and those officials arenā€™t diverse both in terms of racial makeup but also where theyā€™re from, itā€™s It creates a real insular environment thatā€™s resistant to change and innovation. Why is Mike Dean still around? Why did Howard Webb leave and come back? Itā€™s way way way too cozy.

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See thereā€™s another issue here for me as fans we never acknowledge and thatā€™s the respect side of refereeing.
Now tbf you can use your point on transparency to defend a degree of fans arguments if you want.
This for me though starts at grassroots level. As early as kids football at u8s for example with a kid of 12 up refereeing.
Heā€™s getting abuse from parents on the sidelines which filters down to the kids on the pitch.
Blame culture starts here.
Open age amateur football reported itā€™s highest incidents of refs being assaulted or attacked in 2022.
The day Klopp got sent off against city all amateur football was cancelled in Merseyside that week in a protest by refs after a spate of attacks.
Kind of ironic nobody thought this worthy of questioning after the dust settled after this game.
Not directly responsible obviously but you see the point Iā€™m making.
Now going back to your point on inclusiveness of all races etc.
Your going to have to start at the bottom and work up obviously.
Itā€™s difficult enough in these circumstances and must be even more off putting if this is the reality of your journey as a person of different colour I would think.
I think your suggestion on mic of refs has room for discussion but Iā€™d also suggest the fourth official should be as well.
Not a coach in the game comes off good questioning him.
Think we might all be a bit embarrassed if we heard some of the comments made by managers.
Not once has a decision on field been changed with any of that gesticulating.

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As much fun as it is to take the piss out of old fatty, he got given a chance initially because of his name in the game.

Did pretty well at derby tbf, then at Chelsea got top 4 with a lot of young English players which made him look better than he is.

Everton are just dumb fucks.

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Yeah that is certainly an issue. Itā€™s an issue here too, not just in youth football but in baseball especially where the parents are fucking maniacs. Like, get a grip Karen, your kid is not a meal ticket, theyā€™re a slightly above average athlete whose parents were able to pay exorbitant registration fees to get into a travel team.

Iā€™m not a person of color so obviously I canā€™t answer that. But I think in a league that is so cosmopolitan and diverse that exists in a country that is so diverse (in pockets), it might help weed out some unconscious biases officials have. No more Mark Clattenberg yucking it up with ā€œWazzaā€ on the pitch, you know? What if an official even spoke more than one language?

Yes, youā€™re going to have to dramatically increase recruitment in more diverse areas. Maybe fund training programs in different areas. I mean, my frame is so brittle if I took a single tackle in a competitive match Iā€™d shatter like Sam Jackson in Unbreakable but being an official would be a way to still stay involved in a sport I love. Youā€™d think thatā€™s a way to get teens and young adults interested in training to be officials.

The microphones would be the first thing Iā€™d mandate. And you know what? A lot of coaches, including our coach, would end up looking silly. But it would be a real insight into how the refs behave and how the players behave, and I think a lot of dumb shit would get cleaned up.

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Guarantee this is the headline the media want following the NLD. Ref will surely give them a penalty to help easter island head :moyai: out.

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I now draw your attention to Casemiroā€™s booking totals. He is 2 bookings away from suspension.

ā€˜If thereā€™s a godā€¦ā€™

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Hopefully our game vs Everton gets rearranged for that midweek also, last thing we need is United getting another 3 points closer to us on the table.

Iā€™d rather have a weeks rest to give ourselves the best chance of beating United personally.

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Not a fan of games in hand whilst other sides rack up pointsā€¦

Points on the board over games in hand always my preference, winning builds momentum also.

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Of course as a general point Iā€™d agree.

But United is one of our toughest games left for the season and theyā€™re a rival. Itā€™s more important to take 3 points against United then to keep the games played column equal.

With you on this one, dgaf what united are doing this season - theyā€™re 9 behind us.

What matters most is maximising our chance of beating them and staying ahead of city.