Yeah…about that :ozil:
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Even after failing miserably to beat the Man U scoring record in the PL, I’d still go with Rodgers.
The problem is, would he drop down a level to come to us? 
I agree if we do well he probably would consider it but then why would we need him.
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One for the #RodgersIn gang.
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Jose’s style is basically what Emery is trying to emulate but failing miserably at. Jose loves to defend and grind out wins, Jose just actually has the wherewithal to set up his team defensively and drill them to defend, as opposed to Emery who’s defense is like a sieve.
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Plus Jose can also get the best out of attacking players.
Drogba, Joe Cole, Lampard, Schneijder, Milito, CR7, :ozil: , Hazard, all had career best periods of form under him.
Emery has not shown that
To me, guys like Jose and Conte are a different mould to the small-dickers. Both are defensive, but those 2 have a different intensity and will to win, instead of a palpable fear that everyone can smell on the smalldickers.
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I dunno about offensively, but yeh the no nonsense mentality would be a nice change. Jose >>> Emery for sure but Jose also comes with a hell of a lot of baggage and tends to leave teams in tatters after the 2nd year or so. Still I would prefer someone young with fresh ideas.
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“No clearly defined style of play” :unai:
I think there’s a slightly unrealistic expectation that when a coach arrives at a club his style to play must be instantaneous otherwise progress isn’t being made.
I mean you obviously have guys like Klopp, Pep and Bielsa who will line teams up in a way where you can see what they’re trying to achieve pretty quickly but other managers take a bit of time to work out what might be the best approach for the team.
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I partially agree. If a manager has a pre season to suss out his players and tactics, we should see signs in his first competitive match. Emery had Man City. I could see no discernable difference in what Emery was doing cf what Wenger did apart from that laborious playing out of the back shit. I called it out then, Emery was not our man.
In the commentary of the same game, Gary Neville was saying that Emery needed 4 or 5 transfer windows to get things right. 4 or 5?! That equates to 2 and a half seasons. Even Everton won’t give Marco Silva that much time.
The bit I do agree with you on is that if we do get a new manager right now, let’s not expect him to pull up any trees instantly mid-season. It’s akin to a sub coming on in a high intensity game and getting to grips with the pace of the match right away. Very rarely happens.
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How long is “a bit of time”?
All Emery has to do is play our best players when available to all teams in the prem. That way he won’t be blamed for loses, but he keeps playing youngsters and leaving better players on the bench as with Sheffield United.
This isn’t rocket science we need as many points as possible to reach top four so why doesn’t he just do it. What’s he holding our best player back for? I would rather beat the middle / lower teams and lose to top four is that gets us into the CL.
I’m not sure Emery was being alluded to by @SRCJJ thought it was Veira unless I’m mistaken.
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Oh I’m definitely not talking about Emery mate or to an extent not even defending Vieira. Just more this obsession the game has with “clearly defined styles to play” yet some managers are pragmatists who can change their approach on game to game basis. So you’re never really going to get a clearly defined style of play with certain managers.
Wasn’t even a dig at you either bro, so apologies if it came across that way. Was more just a general point!
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Rodgers and Lampards teams had discernible styles of play early into their tenures.
It shouldn’t take even longer than a single season to see what a coach is attempting to do or implement if it does then I doubt they’re the right man for the job.
Of course a manager will adapt in certain situations, however, there should be a viable base line identity.
Think you could make exceptions on level of a squad you inherit tbf.
You could but generally unless the squad is utter garbage and battling in the drop zone I wouldn’t tbh.
I’m not entirely sure. After his first season there was a body of opinion that Pep wouldn’t work at City.
Not many would admit that now but it was voiced.
Sure, but some of it was from people who wanted to see someone of his stature fail in the English game.
It was evident what he was working towards from that first season and it was clear that it was viable if they rejuvenated the squad.
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