Mesut Özil

What values? Ozil is worshipping a guy who already had his two terms as Prime Minister, but has changed the constitution (established by Ataturk) and made sure to give the role of president more power in order to stay in power after his terms. The Turkish people are brainwashed by thinking that is okay. In the mean time oppressing people who don’t side with him and he’s violating human rights. This is not about respecting certain values. Ozil simply has very dubious political allegiances and that’s being pointed out.

Exactly the reason why that shite should be fought.

I feel like mhappy is trolling people here.

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I like cheese !

There’s a good chance you need to relax a bit by now :xhaka: And you might need to self-reflect on how not everyone who is not like you is brainwashed. It’s a bit childish.

I wasn’t talking about everybody. Just religious people and Erdogan/dictator supporters. Which is just fact tbh.

Like @Forever said. A Dutch reporter of Turkish descent was actually jailed for here critcism of the Turkish regime. That’s mad.

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Basically anyone who thinks that is ok is a bit of a cunt in my books.

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30 posts were merged into an existing topic: Religion - Do we need it anymore?

That’s what I have been saying it doesn’t matter what you think it his choice!!! You can about Armenians Greeks and whatever in between; however it’s ozil freedom to invite who fucking feels.

Yeah we’ve definitely strayed too far from Ozil now, if you want to continue the discussion of religion and brainwashing and whatever then we’ll move these posts to a more appropriate thread.

I’ll probably move them in the morning anyway but I’m tired and need my sleep lol

Edit: to save myself any more potential work (it’s fiddly moving a shit load of posts on my mobile) on my morning commute I’m just going to close the thread for a few hours :slightly_smiling_face:

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So what do we think about Ozil inviting Erdogan to his wedding?

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Posts that refer to Erdoğan and Turkish politics have been left here, as they are relevant to the thread in light of recent reports. Shite about brainwashing and religion have gone.

Further discussion along these lines of Erdoğan etc is fine, though I would suggest that the thread might benefit if we just let it be for a bit and get back to specifically football related chat.

Ozil is a lazy fucking cunt and we should sell him. Fight me @Calum

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You’re delusional if you think Ozil is lazy. (playing along)

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Ozil am I right. I think he is a tidy player how about you guys? :joy:

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I just don’t know why everything has to be related and linked to politics.

It is really his choice, respecting his decision or not.

Okay, he invited a dictator and we think he is a bad guy.
So, does it mean if he invite the Pope, and he is a good guy?

Now he is inviting Erdogan so Ozil is the bad guy, and the rest of the guest list he invited are also bad people because Ozil is bad?

Come on. Give him a break.

No Ozil is not a bad guy but just a bit dumb and a case can be made of being a coward.

I am bit relaxed on the latter as pissing off a powerful man can be dangerous.

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Can’t disagree.

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Lol just seen this as I muted the thread for a few days as I was bored of this conversation making the thread go way off topic :joy:

Still want that fight? :kissing_heart:

:goat:

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:goat: performance.

Lovely to see him play so well.

If only we saw it every week away and home.

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