Lucas Torreira

I never said Torreira was shit for us recently. He’s proven to be really good, I think he’s great for what he is. A defensive minded midfielder, he’s been fucking awesome, but he isn’t the be all end all solution to our terrible midfield. He and Seri would shit on every midfield in the prem.

But who said he was the be all and end all solution to our midfield?

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Here ya go, I was abused because I said he’s not a Santi replacement. Just after these comments thespecialcnut posted a great graphic of how much better both Torreira and Seri’s numbers were over Xhaka. All i ever said in this thread was that Torreira should replace Xhaka and we still need an elite level creative midfielder. Dunno how that could be disagreed with tbh…

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Torreira is an unreal talent that god knows how we got. Dude has the potential to be the best #6 in the world, once Kante retires…

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It’s Maverick dude, you can’t use that as a piece of evidence, I’m simply throwing that out, try again.

I don’t want to argue with you either, I said Torreira would be a quality defensive midfielder and that’s what he is, you also agree.

Signing this guy would make so much sense. I don’t know much about him but he could be our “new Santi” and replace Wilshere (not too difficult, sadly). Plus he seems to have good tactical awareness and can stick in with a tackle at the right time. Definitely HYPED now - Swissgooner

A mix of Cazorla and Kante - AW49

Another comparison I heard was Verratti and Vidal - YJYUX

Here’s the link go ahead and read for yourselves.

No offense to anyone with these opinions, I personally just didn’t see it and I’m pretty sure I was correct.

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So no comment on the things that I’m told were never said yet it took me like 2 minutes to bring up a plethora of examples?? Yeehhhh that’s what I thought :joy::joy:

No one can be bothered with you thats why.

Too big of an ego to admit they could possibly be wrong is more like it :joy::joy:

Damn, you got the time to do the research??? What impress me most is, you found it and found it quick.

Fuck… that’s impressive.

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Torreira is easily our best player as all our other players still play like clueless Wengbois.

You’ve posted two examples. One saying he “could be” our new Santi from someone who states he “does not know much about him” and another post saying a mix of Cazorla and Kante, which is obviously not correct. And you’ve posted one regarding Vidal and Verratti which has nothing to do with Arsenal fans saying he’ll replace Santi.

You’re basixally clutching. Because one or two members might have said it does not mean it was even remotely close to being a commonly held opinion. He was never signed as a Santi replacement, is not a Santi replacement and we probably won’t sign a Santi replacement because anyway.

There’s 3 examples of him either being called a new Santi or mention of replacing him. A few posts above I quoted someone who said the same. And yeh none of them are remotely correct as I pointed out at the time and it still rings true. Stop with the mental gymnastics.

So it went from, I’ve never seen anyone say that’, to ‘well only 3 ppl said that and it wasn’t the commonly held opinion’ :joy::joy: yeah well I never once said it was the commonly held opinion. Let’s examine the context. In the Liverpool thread Torreira’s limitations are being discussed, my comment was that I disputed the claim at the time we were linked with him, that he could bring the same attributes to the team that Cazorla did, and if you look at the conversation I specifically addressed the ppl at the time they said this stuff.

What’s he best at?

Do some not understand be was being used in a totally different way at Sampdoria? Here he’s clearly being deployed as foil to Xhaka to mask his deficiencies which mostly demonstrates his defensive nous.

That wasn’t the case at Sampdoria, get a clue. He has more to his game than he has shown here.

This article explains it in detail.

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Trollble should read this before running his mouth off :joy:

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Great read. Thanks for posting.

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I don’t rate his playmaking in those videos as being too noteworthy. Out of the long passes he does make they aren’t that accurate. He’s obviously never going to be Busquets/Alonso and imo won’t develop passing to the level of an Arteta.

Roy Keane today is remembered for his aggression but look how good his footballing ability was before he even signed for United

Saying that a 22 year old won’t be as good as perhaps the few best players to play that sort of position (which isn’t even 100% homogenous population), including Roy Keane (again, not homogenous), isn’t really rocket science… just on odds alone regardless of how good a player is at any young age, the chances they get to the very, very top of the game are insanely low.

He has done well to come into a fairly shambolic situation and has shown much more than just a destroyer, which is clearly one of his strengths. His reading of the game is fantastic for his age and experience with the team.

Let’s enjoy the fact that he has come into a very discombobulated side (still) in a new and very different league and performed as one of our better players at an age that gives him quite a bit of scope for improvement.

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Lol Roy Keane. The ultimate passion merchant