no
Actually
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Do any of the videos show how the car first got into the crowd of people? Iâve seen one horrific video and itâs of the car in the middle of a crowd being harrassed by them and then the ramming takes place. But did anything happen prior to the harrassment of the driver?
Yes, there is a footage I posted above where his rear window is broken and a flare thrown (which almost landed inside the car)
Another footage where his door is being banged at and then someone comes and opens the door.
not sure about the timelines though
no idea about this
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@Trion If we assume you are absolutely correct and they did something toâŚwind up the driver. Where is driving into people a reasonable reaction?
This is foolishness and I donât understand what youâre trying to say.
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The initial bit can be understandable because his car was swamped and you can assume self defence.
but after that, he had a path opened up but for some bizarre reasons (if it was not pre-meditated) he turned towards the crowd.
He should be punished for that. There was no need to turn there.
Liverpool fans who harrassed him should bear some guilt of what they pushed this man into. Any person fearing his life will not see anything reasonable at that moment. It doesnât seems like a terrorist intent because he stops eventually when he could have done more damage
Iâd really like to know how the car ended up there in the first place. Something dodgy about that if it turns out he didnât plan on doing this.
Surely thatâs something that immediately points to nefarious intent for a car to end up in the middle of a crowd on closed off roads during a celebratory event?
You literally have no proof that Liverpool fans goading caused this. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
I wasnât expecting this when I seen this had 51 replies thought it was an Ornstein tweet fucking hell thats awful. Hope everyone is ok
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Not sure if it was entirely closed off because in this video, there is one more car in there
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Iâm sorry to say this completely normal response looks out of place here.
Tbf there are quite a few sensible replies in here, one person though is making some real questionable points
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Atleast you accepted that they were goading. Good. Some progress.
I see you have selective vision and missed the first part of my part. Unfortunately weâre making zero progress with you. Shame.
Yeah sure, broken windows, strangers opening doors, crowds swarming you & banging the car from all sides are no proof. You have some audacity to use the phrase âselective visionâ
And you have some audacity to try and defend this guy. Like I said, you know nothing. You donât know if that guy ran down more people before the person started recording, you werenât there, so you know fuck all about it
The people recording those videos themselves say âbefore collisionâ
You are stubbornly refusing to accept the evidence shown to you and I donât wish to indulge you any further.
Good, I can only take so much of talking to morons on a daily basis, you were starting to give me a headache with your stupidity.
@Trion there is absolutely not excuse for this type of behaviour! None whatsoever.
If you look at this video, you find it really difficult to understand how it would be a pre-meditated attack. Why wait if that was Intent?