Never liked this cunt.
I canāt agree with this- but he is a cunt now, yes
Yeah, on reflection he was shit and only looked good because he was playing with even worse players.
He only looked good because Per marshalled him and made up for his absolute horrendous reading of the game. People used to act like it was Koz keeping Per right but I saw it the other way around.
Anyway Per went out like a boss and Koz went out like a bitch so it doesnāt bother me.
Per still criminally underrated.
Pers last game: we played Chelsea
Koss last game: we played Chelsea.
The difference between them in a lot of qualites showed in the results of those 2 games.
Preach bro.
Iād say overall they were on a similar level, and deserve almost the same creditā¦ but the one who was somewhat of a leader and who was organizing the defence, and had more impact on other players around himslelf (both with his personality and tactical quality) was undoubtedly per.
This guy was Wenger through and through. Glad we got rid of the plastic Achilles merchant
It doesnāt have to be either or really, I think most people recognised that they complemented each other quite nicely. Both of their games were very different to each other and they did well to mask each others shortcomings. Both had their respective qualities.
Which is pretty much my idea of what a centre back partnership should be.
The last thing I say about him, he burned his bridge with Arsenal. He shouldnāt be given any kind of job or welcomed back fondly once he retires. He has his fanās in the fanbase, I never rated him as strongly as others. Heās no Tony Adams or Sol Campbell. He has acted unprofessional and has left a bitter taste. But we move on and we got him off the books.
Iāve talked with you and Darkseid about this before so I donāt want to go down that rabbit hole again but I just gotta say that there was always an underlining belief that Per was the weaker link in the partnership. I never saw it that way, I really think Koz was lucky to playfor Arsenal. And much like Giroud I feel he got way more out of his time here than the club got from him.
Like you saw they both had their flaws and weaknessā but for the most part they were great together, of course Per was great with almost anyone beside him and Koz was a little crybaby bitch when big Papa Per wasnāt there to babysit, but thatās a story for another day.
Iād agree he was underratedā¦ he wasnāt my cup of tea in the sense that it scares the f*ck out of me to have someone so slow back there, but he was intelligent and used the gifts he had to the max.
This feels like major revisionism haha. Per was shit on plenty of occasions, with plenty of different players, letās not totally rewrite history and act like he was consistently a beast. Cos he really wasnāt.
Anyway, like you said, perhaps not best to go down this particular rabbit hole. Because I actually love Per so I donāt want to end up in some adversarial conversation where I find myself digging him out, cos I had a higher opinion of him than many did.
Last thing on your point aboveā¦ Per was an organiser, Wenger seemed to mostly prefer signing the Koscielny type of centre back, so for that reason there is something in what you say about Per meshing well with our other defenders in a way Koscielny didnāt so often. But to me that says nothing about how good they are, thatās just a question of compatibility and Wengerās squad building/planning. If our squad was overloaded with slow as fuck, organising types like Per and only one Koscielny this would be the other way round. Put Per with another slow defender in his mould and theyād both have got done on the regular. Just like Kos was when playing with an unsuitable partner.
Look at Laurent Koscielny. The way he left Arsenal for Bordeaux was a disgrace. This is someone who had been at the Emirates Stadium for nine years, captained the club and had unrelenting support during difficult times with serious injuries.
If you captain a club of Arsenalās stature, you have a duty to act responsibly. He should have been on the plane for their pre-season tour to the United States ā not turning up is the worst thing a professional footballer can do to his team-mates, the fans and the staff.
To make matters worse, the way they revealed his transfer with a video of him peeling off an Arsenal shirt to show a Bordeaux kit was dreadful. He burnt his bridges so badly he will never be able to show his face at the Emirates again.
I played for a number of clubs in my career but Iād like to think I left everywhere on good terms. Iāve always received great ovations when Iāve been back to old stadiums with opposing teams and I canāt understand why you would actively antagonise those who care about you.
Top man Crouchy.
Nonsense tbh
A money spinning preseason tour and a low budget shirt reveal, who cares? Itās all trivial BS which doesnāt invalidate 9 years for committed service for this club.
Just not bothered about the way he left considering he should have been phased out 2 seasons ago
@sevchenko is typing, wonder how heās going to be contrarian and shit on Peter Crouch for a reasonable opinion
Edit: beat me to it, but glad not to be disappointed 
Agreed, Per was especially pretty poor after the world cup and he was obviously apart of those thrashing in 13/14 when otherwise Ko/Per was a great partnership
Kosceilny came in and gave good performances even last season. So while they had dithering final game performances both were great servants.
In the end we paid Ā£3.5m to upgrade from a crocked Kos to Luiz so it worked out okay. I reckon Abrahmovic did Luiz a favour, like when he let Cech move against Mourinhoās wishes
Crouchy on point