Labour and Your Party

Will be interesting to see what a landslide Reform government looks like!

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I believe they’re currently doubling down on the Jimmy Savile comments.

What’s funny is they could’ve thrown the Tories under the bus with this trash but decided to own it instead.

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Both Labour and the Tories are incredibly anti privacy. They want everything everyone does online documented and accessible.

Do you guys not think the people that run our country are as spiteful as they are stupid?

Like, they threaten us by not doing a good job because it will make us happy. If something is sensible and good and will make people happy- they won’t do it because people will like it.

Nah, doesn’t make sense and if anything gives them too much credit.

It’s becoming clear that not touching income tax at the next budget would be an act of intentional harm to the country.

Perhaps, but I’m straight out on strike if they touch my wages and in all likelihood so is the rest of the public sector. They won’t achieve the income they’re looking for.

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I just don’t agree with this. There are so many means to increase tax on the wealthy people despite what we’re constantly told. The government need to stop rolling over for the wealthy and find ways to tax the mega earners who keep getting verifiably richer

If you increase income tax on bottom earners, continue with the current tax threshold freeze and below inflation wage increases you have to ask yourself how much more they can squeeze out of the regular working persons pocket?

It’s unsustainable at this stage.

I’m absolutely not a specialist on economics I accept that but I refuse to believe that income tax is the only way to increase tax revenue.

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It’s not the only way but its the most reliable way to garner steady revenue from a largely productive stream, other methods are less secure and the figures/variables aren’t sustainable for budgeting.

Everyone, all groups regardless of their income has a final line re taxes. The goal for this government is to get a close to it as possible without affecting overall revenue. The situation is desperate

This Labour government has been tougher on taxing wealth but if you want to go further you really can’t ignore potential second order effects. I’m not sure if the government can get away with more forms of direct taxation, like the windfall tax of gas and oil without risking total ruin in the markets tbh, I don’t think their opposition to different ways of taxing wealth is due to a lack of political will or ideological resistance.

Close the fucking accounting loop holes that the big corporations take advantage of.

Taxing the average working person more when we’re all already paying through the nose for everything else is a shit house move.

My main household monthly bills 2021, £1650.

My main household monthly bills 2025, £2066.

There’s absolutely nothing extra in there, this is just mortgage, gas, electric, water, insurances, broadband and council tax. £416 a month for absolutely zero extra, if anything the services have declined.

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Totally agree. It’s not just big corporations. I investigate the structure of a lot of the companies my lot insure. I’d say that most companies who have a turn-over of over a million per annum seem to conveniently have an LLP and a base in a tax haven.

I’d add that property purchases over £10m should be heavily taxed. We also need rent safeguards because renters are being shafted which means they can never save for a place of their own. Only the rich benefit from that.

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Increased spending on the NHS, public sector pay rises, welfare and infrastructure projects. The government is spending more on things without cutting government spending, how do you expect these things to be paid for?

I’m very open minded, how much can these accounting loop holes garner in additional tax? If the hypothetical wealth tax by very highly/unrealistic projections rises £24bn, that’s less than quarter of the total yearly amount we pay on interest on the national debt alone, if that doesn’t scare you, it definitely should.

I think it was a critical mistake for Reeves to suggest the average working person would be completely isolated from increased government spending, equally delusion of the electorate to think covid spending and increased government spending would be swept under a rug.

We’re to the point now where if you agree with the current government’s spending priorities you have to support in increase to income tax as the primary means to balance the books to pay for it. Its that simple in my view.

Its time for the current electorate to start making sacrifices for your children. A 5p increase income tax will not bankrupt anyone. These are tough times, they’re getting touger because people lack the iron will to tackle them head on.

I don’t think I will.

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Same here. Don’t have kids, so to be quite frank, not my problem. I’m a single man, I pay all my taxes on time, I’m not a drain on societal services and I’m very rarely ill to the point where I need a doctor or the hospital so neither a drain on the NHS and I pay for my dental care privately because that’s fucked too.

I was born in 83, part of the generations of people who have contributed to paying off the debt from world wars and various wars after, now this?

At a local level I pay a silly amount of council tax to a council that are constantly and have again in the last few days funilly enough declared they’re nearly at a level where they’re bankrupt….. But in order to trim down on the promised savings they agreed to make they’ve sold off most of the assets locally and have now said they will need to spend a further £20m on the “procurement of a contractor” to help carry out the remaining of it’s budget overhaul. We’ve already just been forced to pay higher council tax rates for effectively all I get is a bi-weekly bin collection.

Shambles. Yet the fuck wits think it’s the fucking boat people that are the problem :person_facepalming:

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I think the successive governments who sacrificed my daughter’s access to a safe birth, sacrificed her access to education until her mother and I took the necessary legal action to bring it about, sacrificed her access to necessary specialists, disability provision and sacrificed her right to hold them accountable have ensured that we’ve sacrificed quite enough.

Except as she grows older no doubt it will be time for her to sacrifice whatever she has for the next generation who will still somehow have to sacrifice what they have.

How about the rich and powerful make such sacrifices, or else follow through on their threats to leave one of the biggest economies on Earth?

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Yes, yes, yes, what you said 100%.

It’s been that way for the last 20-odd years. Every element of mis-management of this country is being blamed on foreigners. You’d have thought the penny would have dropped with those fuckwits when Brexit didn’t magically fix “broken Britain”.

How about the triple lock and all the free money pensioners get on top of all their other income streams e.g. rent money?

But really what I want is increased enforcement of what laws we already have.

There is so much tax fraud at the top that can be sorted if there was will.

Instead the powers that be are childish as fuxk

https://x.com/doctoriaindarcy/status/1952810333317251490?s=46

lol, I guess.

What an idiot

How mature of them. What’s next, a higher rate of tax for old lefties with beards? I’m fucked if they do.