Kroenke Sports & Entertainment (KSE)

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You can only hope that he does what’s needed to take us forward now. This season goes better than last and partly due to Kane losing his form/motivation and Utd up to their old tricks and unbalanced team we have a good shout at 4th.

Quite clear though that we’re 2-3 top talents short of being regularly competitive for top 4 let alone actually contending for the league.

I remain undecided on Arteta but a top 4 this season will see me wanting another season of him and thinking we may be going in the right direction at last. A 7th or worse and I’ll be saying we’re wasting time and money to stand still.

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All he does is win the mad lad

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I’m still super skeptical that KSE’s other teams show that he or Josh know what they’re doing with Arsenal just because of the way rules in NA sports are so drastically different.

I overall like the direction the club is going even if I’m not a huge fan of Mikel and Edu.

One of the things the Rams did well was make a huge call with the trade at QB. It’s not perfectly analogous but if the club were content to let Auba leave we need to see real talent walking back in this summer.

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It never has, never did with the high or the lows. There’s never been any correlation

Just salty Arsenal fans seeking to make a poor point about KSE’s management generally

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What KSE teams do in American sport have zero bearing on Arsenal, completely different sports with completely different rules / systems.

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At a super bowl party last night and my brother in law was talking about Kroenke…“he owns manchester united in the premier league too…” lmaoooo :joy::joy::sob::sob:

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Kroenke has taken money out of Arsenal. That’s his attitude. He loves the Rams. It’s not the same for Arsenal.

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Understandable it has worked out that way tbh, bloke is American he is gonna have stronger ties to an American sport, Arsenal would just be seen as an asset that increases in value to him.

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American sports franchises generally don’t go bust. There is the draft as an equaliser and wage bill caps also, so there is huge money from TV deals (new round coming up) and commercialisation, and while wages are big they are controlled as a total and there aren’t really any transfer fees either. He can put huge money into the Rams stadium and be confident in stability and return from that. It looks like sports passion, but it is sensible business also. The same equation just isn’t there for Arsenal.

I say this because it is a general thing fans in England have about American ownership, but United have the commercial deals while Arsenal has been crud on that, and Liverpool have owners who were competent and made good hires. Even last January there was tension at Liverpool because Klopp had to make do because the owners would not support him on a big buy for a CB.

Football fans don’t want business and sensibilities. They want madness. Hence the ownership of City, Chelsea, Newcastle, etc. That said, we can always look to Liverpool and where we are falling short. Yes, the Kroenke’s haven’t cared enough (or understood enough) to fire and replace underperforming executives. Vinai, for example.

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I honestly think this is the issue. He doesn’t understand the sport, he tries to run Arsenal like it’s an American sports team but the culture is completely different. If Kroenke lived in London it might be different.

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Just one great hire basically and that’s Klopp, which was a no brainer at the time.

Liverpool’s ownership get way too much credit for hitting the lotto after years of failure

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Michael Edwards surely comes into a good hire section.

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I think the Liverpool supporters keep FSG in check. All it takes is one/two slip ups and they’re caught in the supporter firing lines. Happened plenty Pre-Klopp.

Never felt in any period Kroenke felt any sort of pressure except maybe the Super League drama.

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It’s easy for executives to do their job when you have a world class coach in place with a clearly defined playing style and defined player profile preference

There’s nothing particularly unique or special about Edwards or his abilities. Klopp is the force and direction behind recruitment

Granted but you need everyone singing from the same hymn sheet.
Got to be able to close them deals too. I mean he basically replaced Ian Ayre around the time Klopp arrives.
Has to be a reason for that and a bit of the success has to be acknowledged on his part.

Fair enough, it really depends on the club’s structure. After Ayre, LFC shifted to being led by the Manager firtsly. I see Edwards’s role as an extension of the coach.

We follow a similar model at Arsenal, people seem to doubt it but Edu works for Arteta and takes direction from him. Is Edu a great hire for getting £25m off Newcastle for willock and our summer dealings? I don’t think so.

The model at Arsenal is fuzzy and pretty hard to say it is by design. We started off trying to exit away from the central figure of Arsene Wenger, and that all failed, we were in a total mess, and the owners have then put all trust in Arteta and therefore made the technical director be deferential to Arteta for that reason: In truth that is just stumbling and fumbling around, and mainly because the owners and executives are not competent (for PL football).

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Was it really a no brainer ? Well I thought it was, but majority of Arsenal still would have kept Wenger over appointing Klopp in 2015 given the choice.

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If he’s bad it’s not because he’s tight.

It’s just not true and it instantly pegs you as an idiot in my eyes if you say that.

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