Israel/Palestine

Don’t bring it into schools

If these were being paraded, hung indiscriminately on streets, etc, then yes. Not seen anything like this, though. Only seen Israeli flags at peaceful protests thus far.

Neither the article nor Braverman say anything about schools, so not really sure why you’re bring that into this?

But that’s it? When you suggested the waving of Palestinian flags needs to be curbed, you were randomly referring to them hypothetocally being displayed in schools? You aren’t suggesting any other sort of “curbs” whatsoever?

What constitutes the “parading” of a flag? How does it differ to the display of a flag at a peaceful protest?

Unless the Palestinian flag being flown is linked to some sort of violent act, then displaying it is also a peaceful, non-violent act, just like the displays of the Israeli flag that you are ok with.

The idea that the waving of any flag needs to be curbed is crazy, but the thing is, you’d only ever see it this way round, there are no circumstances in which Braverman or any Tory would suggest such things about Israeli flags, regardless of the context.

It wasn’t ever “hypothetically” in a school, it did happen in a school.

That’s one of the curbs. Wouldn’t wanna see flags at footy matches, either. It’s bound to cause unrest. Already heard of some crap happening when the Zinchenko chant was being sung in a pub.

I wouldn’t be OK with Israeli flags being displayed randomly on streets here, off lampposts, etc, and I haven’t suggested otherwise

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“Randomly” is doing a lot of heavy lifting, because you are clearly ok with Israeli flags being displayed in the streets, for that is generally where peaceful protests take place. So like I say, as long as the display of the Palestinian flag is not linked to violence or a criminal act, it is not qualitatively different to the display of Israeli flags that you deem acceptable.

No, but good try

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You said that it’s ok if its a peaceful protest, which tend to occur in public, in the streets, so within certain contexts, you are ok with Israeli flags being displayed in the streets. My point is that the context within which you are ok with Israeli flags being displayed does not on the surface seem qualitatively different from how the majority of people would display Palestinian flags in public, as either an act of protest or a display of political beliefs, both of which are valid whether its an Israeli or Palestinian flag.

Again, good try, but false again.

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Ok, have I misinterpreted the final sentence of the above as you being ok with Israeli flags being displayed on the streets if part of a peaceful protest? You seem to be drawing a clear line between how you think Palestinian flags are being displayed and how Israeli ones are, with one not being ok and the other being ok.

You could just clarify how I have misinterpreted you, if I have, and explain what you actually meant, instead of this glib, short “nice try” bullshit.

:pires2: oh ok, quote where I say you’re “using pro-Israeli propaganda”

Nah

No worries then, I’ll go with my initial assumption that your usual anti-Muslim sentiment is what’s behind your initial post.

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You can fuck off with that

Nah

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Make some more shit up then, you piece of shit

Deeply concerning that there’s not much by way of safe passage for loved ones to return back to the UK, as the bottom of the article stipulates.

Again, where is the evidence of babies being murdered? IDF on three occasions couldn’t confirm it. By all means voice your concerns but back them up.

You fully asked me to provide sources, which I did. And then totally ignored my post lol. Stop forcing agendas man.

Anyways, I agree with you about such protests. Protests which are are vile, discriminatory etc are not good for the society, for example like this; this was few days after deaths of Palestinians and the occupation of Masjid Al Aqsa.

https://x.com/realstewpeters/status/1710829348503093696?s=46

Where is the evidence of them not being murdered?

You come with a source called Anadolu? I am surprised (actually I am not) the source police on this forum didn’t call you out for this.

Here are sources who support the narrative of babies being murdered by Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-takes-foreign-journalists-to-see-massacre-site-in-kfar-aza/

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4248499-israeli-forces-say-theyve-uncovered-evidence-of-brutal-killings-they-cut-heads-of-children/

Look. Even if the beheading is not the case. It’s 100% factual Hamas went about killing everyone and anyone they came across including babies.

I really don’t understand your position. You show me a video of Israel flags demonstration. Ok?

Does it mean innocent people, dogs, toddlers, grandmas, festival goers, non Jews, Jews, pro Palestinians, anyone and everyone had to be killed indiscriminately by Hamas?

I am really sick to death of the excuses.

I am for an independent Palestine. Where they can live in peace, but these attacks are not the way to do it.

Just because Israel government does shit they shouldn’t do, doesn’t make it right to go about killing innocent lives en masse.

Stop making up excuses.

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I’ll never understand people who are pro Palestinian/Israel, and who also defend Hamas’/IDF’s actions with whataboutery.

You can support the people while at the same time condemning those who govern them.