We weren’t prepared for it. Someone should have been covering that post. I wouldn’t be expecting Ramsdale to deal with that from where he was - as we can see he has to go through a player to reach it.
If he’s impeded unfairly it would be to prevent him jumping up but that doesn’t save him here. He needs the guy out of the way and he’s within his rights to be there. If it wasn’t going in this would have been the goalscorer tapping it in.
I can see it going both ways but I’m not overly upset we didn’t get it.
Like @Sol said, 9 times out of 10, that gets given as a foul against the keeper, but not when it’s us. But I agree with @Bavin. Ramsdale has to take control of this situation. He can have someone stand in between himself and the attacker, how nudges him out of the way as the ball comes in, or have a man at the near post to deal with this. He will learn from this.
Think questions need to be asked of Tomiyasu positioning on that one too. He was the guy on the post wasn’t he? Shouldn’t even have gotten to that position as it was in distance for Tomi to intercept and clear
The ref was just generally poor. The Odegaard yellow for shirt pulling was no worse than what was done to Saka in the penalty area earlier in the match. That was after a couple of studs-up tackles from Villa too.
Yeah because Kamara is impeding him (illegally) and Ramsdale needs to get past to try and get to the ball lol.
Trying to make this somehow a foul by Ramsdale is hilarious. Nevermind the fact that keepers normally get a foul if the wind blows and a similar incident 15 mins later resulted in a freekick for us.
Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.
But he isn’t moving into his path, he’s just taking up a position in the box. Kamara can stand where he likes. He stays in the same spot and Ramsdale tries to come over him.
Can you specify the zone in which Kamara can and cannot stand when a corner is being taken?
I get the counter-argument but if that is allowed, I can think of n ways to completely nullify the keeper.
You can simply line up all the players from one post to the other, pushing the keeper away from the goal.
Well he had to move into his path at some point or did he magically teleport there? He purposely goes to stand in front of the keeper to impede him and blocks Ramsdale being able to get to the ball resulting in the goal.
You can’t just go block the keeper AND then hold him in position lol.
Next time rammy should throw the cunt out the way before the ball comes in.
When the corner is taken he is in one spot. That’s the area of contention.
You also can’t grab onto an opposition player in the box either.
Again, can you clearly specify where an opposition player can and cannot stand?
What about a guy 5 yards in front of the goal? If he stands there and Ramsdale comes to try get the ball is he impeding him? Are opposition players not allowed to be anywhere in the box because the ball might go near them and the keeper won’t be able to get it?
Half the point of a corner is to prevent the keeper from getting it lol
Look mate I cba, I’ve pasted you the rule directly from the FA website. I’m sorry they didn’t have a 5 year old draw zones to depict where players can stand but if you don’t see him impeding the goalkeeper then that’s up to you.
What about a guy 5 yards in front of the goal? If he stands there and Ramsdale comes to try get the ball is he impeding him?
You know this is not even close to the same so what is the point? The guy stands practically on Ramsdale’s toes and grabs him - this hypothetical scenario has nothing to do with it.
For me it’s a clear foul, all day long, every day of the week - even against Arsenal.
Don’t be silly. If you can’t clearly define where an opposition can and cannot stand then you have no basis to claim he shouldn’t be there.
Technically, every opposition player is in the way depending on where the ball goes, so surely if we have a clear definition of where players can be then we can determine whether a keeper is impeded.
Fuck me, why would I need to define some stupid game you’ve made up? The FA rules don’t define where players can stand because that isn’t to do with the rule.
The guy can stand in front of Ramsdale is he wants but he can’t purposely impede him which is what he’s doing. Hence foul.