Fair enough if your like was for the first sentence of his post.
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Bayern Munich
AC Milan
Liverpool
Manchester United
Juventus
Inter Milan
Arsenal
Not sure on 10th.
Have us so low as we have a pathetic european history
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No Man City treble winners mate? Not fancy them ay?
They arenât a big club, same with Chelsea.
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Their history in European tournaments is something a lot of clubs are dreaming of, including Arsenal.
Real had their down time, Barca had theirs, so does Bayern and all big clubs. No team can have success EVERY single season.
Global economics, club finance, playersâ availability, management, scouting, how well the competitors are doing⌠Every single reason counts. Sometimes when you have the best batch of players, like prime Barca, you can dominate. As good as their past history, when they donât have money and/or good players and management, they struggle.
I just donât understand how you call a club that just won the CL three years ago garbage.
Confident is good, but not arrogant.
At what point will they be, if not already?
City have won almost the same number of honours in the last 7 years (19) than weâve won in the last 30 (21).
At no point. None of what they do matters.
People who disrespect Bayerns standing in the game are insane. Thatâs a mega club.
Last couple seasons havenât been overwhelmingly strong but the consistency of them is unrivalled across Europe. Theyâre never a non factor in Europe and always going to finish a season with a trophy.
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Itâs just bias to dunk on their league but when considering their A grade European pedigree and the distinct lack of ours it fails to convince as a credible argument.
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Itâs nothing about âdunking on their leagueâ so you can stop crying about that. Plus youâre the guy who calls it the bundASSliga lol
Itâs about people over egging current Bayern like they did when rice was half linked to them and everybody shat themselves that weâd lose the worlds greatest DM to them.
As I said at the time with rice, Bayern are no more attractive right now than arsenal. Same thing here, the way bayern currently are I donât see more pressure for kane than what he faced at spurs and will stand by that regardless of how much you want to disagree.
Bayerns history has nothing to do with todays view of them. They have been historically a huge European club of course, todays Bayern are nothing special and I wouldnât regard them any higher than PSG who have the same claim of always being a factor in the CL in recent years.
Thanks
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What was arsenals standing in the game when Bayern won the CL?
3 years later weâre title challengers and now expected to do it again. Football can change in an instant, what Bayern did historically means little to nothing for today.
Nobody is disregarding their entire history and what theyâve won at the time, but when you look at the pressure kane was under the last couple years to keep spurs afloat, compared to todays lunatic Bayern sacking managers and board members all over the show, scraping the title from the bottlers - I donât see more pressure there just cos theyâre always a QF UCL team.
The expectations of Bayern and Spurs are worlds apart
Itâs beyond simple
Maybe your world is beyond simple
You do chat some utter shit has to be said
Good so block me, we never agree on anything anyway so nothing new lad.
In case thereâs any actual interest in a debate rather than just the usual snipes.
Yes you are very correct. Bayern are expected to win the league and challenge in the latter rounds of the CL. Spurs are expected to at least fight for top 4 and eventually win nothing as usual. Absolutely never disagreed with any of that.
The point I made which you initially responded to was the pressure on Kane being more at spurs in my opinion.
Bayern win the league 11 or 12 (donât even care) times in a row without Kane - yes or no?
Bayern go deep in the CL most years without Kane - yes or no?
If Bayern donât do one of the above whoâs gonna pay for it? Kane or tuchel?
Spurs relied on Kane for everything, without him they were complete trash who fluked top 4 a couple of times around the early 2010âs. He was probably bigger than their entire club and had everything on his shoulders, for me thatâs more pressure than being a shiny cog in a historically well oiled machine almost guaranteed to win their league.
I know you like to keep things black and white but for me itâs not so simple as âBayern are bigger than spursâ and if you think thatâs chatting shit fair play to you, Iâll never bother again.
I just cant buy the pressure being more at Spurs, top four is alone is considered a good season and maybe a cup run resulting in a league cup if they can manage it.
Now that heâs gone to Bayern especially with that fee the expectations will be huge because the CL is always the one they have their eye on consdiering their domestic dominance and he is looked at as the final piece of the puzzle because there was a huge void since Lewndowski left. Granted the team needs work but there are foundations there with the players they already have, its up to Tuchel to get them to the level required.
When youâve signed for a club as big as Bayern as a top three striker in world football the pressure is big time and I could never really say Spurs is big time pressure not in the grand scheme of things anyway.
You canât because itâs a ridiculous suggestion 
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Now appreciate your whole response and think itâs a fair argument but pulled out this bit as itâs the one I think is the key that does in fact add more pressure and expectation on him, more so than the fee.
Theyâve lacked a striker since lewa as you say and I was going to point out how theyâve won the same shit so was tempted to argue this bit the other way, but I do think what lewa did actually adds more expectation on kane now, as much as they donât need big numbers from him.
I do expect more people to have your line of thought and I donât expect us to agree, I can completely understand that view. Just either way itâs not simply some bias against their league, my bias if anything is against bayerns historical achievements meaning as much today.
For any other spurs player Iâd agree, but this is where Iâm trying to distinguish between club expectations and pressure on a players shoulders. They are linked but not one and the same.
Even if people disagree I donât expect it to be disregarded as a bias. Thatâs an insult to a persons ability to think.