Disgusting behaviour
Looks like Hong Kong has had its āGrenfellā on a massive scale. I was shocked, probably because Iāve never been that far east, that they make scaffolding out of bamboo. Add some netting and itās about as flammable as the cladding on the West London tower.
Itās called āWang Fuk Courtā, I suspect the owner and the developer at the Court will end up appearing in one soon. 4,500 homeless, hard to comprehend what that must feel like.
Doesnāt shock me, matches up with my own anecdotal experiences. Any who isnāt tied down to the UK has fled or is serious thinking about it. Productive people and net contributors under 35 can only take so much
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I can think of 10-15 people I know personally over the last two years whoāve taken the leap and moved abroad.
Iām in the process of finalising it myself. I donāt see the upside in living here these days.
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Iāll never leave the UK to live elsewhere. And if a tiny section of our country choose to leave, then so be it.
IIRC didnāt you have a flat in north London? Have you shifted that?
I think it is absolutely fucking insane that theyāre only lifting the 2 child benefit cap for people on UC.
Utter madness.
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What other benefits recipients should also have it lifted
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I want to leave the UK, but my wife doesnāt. Sheās the more sensible of us two, so I generally give in to her when it comes to my more risky ideas. Iād hate to leave my garden here,Iād hate to not be an hour away from London on the train, Iād hate to be away from my friends and yet my urge is to fuck off to somewhere like the Balearic, Canary or Italian Mediterranean islands.
I just canāt face another fucking winter of cold, damp, grey days and the pain they bring. Iāve had to return to bed twice already today. This is why I donāt want a mid-season break over Christmas and New Year, itās a shitty time of the year, donāt take our football away and make it worse.
Donāt think anything could make me leave Scotland.
Plus due to Arsenal being a major part of my life I donāt want to have to follow the games at a stupid time. Even an hour ahead in Europe is not for me.
No doubt Labour would celebrate net migration being down despite your best young people leaving at the first opportunity playing a role in that.
No surprise thereās a brain drain. Itās ridiculously expensive for a young person in this country, youāre punished for any kind of aspiration and thereās a far right government around the corner.
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How do we know they are the best? Maybe itās the worst that are leaving.
Its nearly always highly educated and skilled people who leave.
I always think ābestā is just shorthand for that.
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it makes you wonder what did it look like, perhaps annually, previous years, maybe the past 10-20 years or so, I donāt feel like a few months or one year is enough.
Certainly the movement in the insurance industry is away from the UK. Before Brexit many insurance companies relocated their head offices to EU countries, just keeping an operational HQ in the city. My company used to occupy all 13 floors of our building in the city, now weāre on two. One is for top brass and meeting rooms the other is hot-desking hell.
Nearly all the claims jobs have moved out to their existing offices around the UK, so starting salaries are down for those roles and theyāre struggling to recruit. Many friends are now working in warmer European cities or in tax havens. The appeal of working in the City of London is diminished when the salaries are half what they were and the only time you come into London is the occasional staff meeting and when you need to hire a room to discuss a claim with London-based solicitors/Kings Counsel.
Wouldāve done the same but the Mrs isnāt up for Dubai.
Would only do it for 1-2 years to save some Ā£Ā£ because itās a little bit soulless but still. Never been more keen to leave this fucking place.
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Depressing to see how many hate this beautiful country 
When we left in 1980 there was no general hate-on for the UK as far as I remember, but Thatcher had not long been in power and I could see the āwriting on the wallā. True, we had been tinkering for a few years with the idea of emigrating, but the latent ruthlessness being shown was enough to convince us it was time to ship out, and, apart from a few pangs of homesickness early on, I canāt say we regretted the move.
Given what I see and sense now, from friends, etc., plus the general claustrophobic nature of the place - traffic, crowds, queues for everything, I donāt think we could hack living back there these days. Of course, aging figures into it, but thereās nothing you can do about that.
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Yeah, I meant skilled as theyāre most likely to have the means and opportunity to leave.
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Why is it surprising? (If, indeed, you find it surprising)