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RIP I guess. This is where you want to believe in a just god to give people like him what is required.

The fuck?!

Radical Islamists trying to ruin Christmas again ffs

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What’s this referring to? Lol

Christmas is too awesome. It can only be ruined by drunken arguments with your in-laws :slight_smile:

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Various terror attacks in European cities leading up to Christmas when ISIS was at its height between 2015 and 2020.

I think Paris, Berlin and Vienna suffered attacks in the festive period. They must not like Christmas

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It was a matter of time.

Netenyahu and all these genocide enablers are making the lives of their own citizens unsafe.

He is a security threat to Palestinians, Israelis (as proven by their October 7th debacle), and westerners by terrorist attacks.

Peace is what ensures safety. This conflict has ling since made the rest of the world unsafe. Directly or indirectly.

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1732314547036291150?t=dAztu4Fr2cK7jYv_ii9KZw&s=19

Interesting graph

It shows we’re the leaders when it comes to child poverty.

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This seems a bit harsh, especially in a country like Italy.

He murdered two people. 17 years sounds lenient.

Surely not, the Norwegians are far from poor, individually and as a country, there are individual instances but even the poorer households are well looked after by the government.

Its % though so a low increase in numbers could see a high % rise.

(We know it’s not a low number in UK ro begin with though)

The armed robbers instigated this, they went onto someone else’s property, then targeted someone who has worked to get a business and threatened his family with a gun.

How was he to know what they would do?
Most people would do the same thing in the same situation.

They instigated the robbery. This man then chose to chase them into the street with a gun.

It’s no longer self defence at that point.

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How did he know they wouldn’t come back?
Rather than feeling sorry for the poor armed robbers , how about a bit of sympathy for the innocent shop owner whose family has been ruined by this.

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It’s not a question of who I feel sorry for.

I would imagine Italy has a similar law when it comes to the killing of people, in that you can do it only when the situation is so dire that you can reasonably be expected to be in fear of your life.

What you cannot do is chase someone with a gun and murder them because they robbed you.

If they were just robbing them, I’d agree but they threatened his family with a gun so my sympathy is with him rather than the scum who did it, especially as something similar had happened to him before.
As I say, how did he know they wouldn’t come back and do it again?

If they came back, and by that time he had the weapon, then I think he’s justified in using it if he or his family are threatened.

If during the robbery he had somehow managed to get the gun, and use it, I think that’s justified too. I’m not sure what Italian law says on those two, but I wouldn’t lose sleep over it.

But at risk of repeating myself, what you cannot do is chase your assailant into the street and kill them.

I think you need to get past the sympathy thing, nobody is expressing sympathy here for armed robbers.

I have next to no sympathy for them, if you rob someone with a gun then I don’t care if you get shot, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t think the shop owner murdered them.

If someone robs you and then leaves your premises, and your pursue them, you’ve transitioned from behaving defensively and are now on the offensive.

His decision to do that really compounded the damage done to his family by this incident