We have 26 parties participating over here. The political landscape is completely fragmented and everyone can find something to vote for.
In a way I like it, because even if parties like Wilders win. He can never rule with an iron fist because the other parties he needs to govern with will block ridiculous proposals.
It avoids situations like in the U.S. where it’s basically a duopoly and when push comes to shove both parties are the same (in my opinion).
Mind you, we will see a shift to the right nonetheless.
I get the same feeling about Trump winning again and going scorched earth. Biden’s approval ratings are the lowest they’ve been and the man might as well be a walking corpse.
Either way I’m holding my nose and voting for the walking corpse. Gotta have my passport and flight booked before the new regime comes into power.
The approval ratings don’t scare me as much as the polls in the swings states.
And campaigns need volunteers to work for them. A lot of those volunteers are young people who can drop what they’re doing and go to Fuckyou, Idaho or whatever. Are people in their 20s going to get hyped about Biden?
Yeah. Though it’s not that bad really. I get free prescriptions for medical reasons. I have a medical exemption card and can use it for any prescription, not just the tablets I have to take. So I guess other more vulnerable people than me and other people who have regular prescriptions will have one of those too.
I worry a little about how many zoomers get their news from Tik Tok. For example there was a lefty tik tok personality with an ok sized following made a post recently telling people that they should not vote for Biden because of his support for Israel and that if people are afraid that it would lead to second Trump presidency that it didn’t matter because things were already awful.
One of the reasons people like Trump win is because “left” parties are completely oblivious to what is concerning to ordinary folks. There is little introspection at these parties as to why they’re losing voters election after elections.
Personally, Biden and that sort of Democrat I absolutely utterly loath and have contempt for. I’d never be able to vote for these war mongering hypocritical idiots.
If I were American, I’d vote Bernie sanders or Jill stein. I’d never vote for someone I despise just so another dumbass won’t win.
That doesn’t work in the US system though. A vote for Jill Stein is pointless without a parliamentary setup and without a true popular vote. We’d need both those things.
At the same time because of this, no 3rd party candidate has got a viable chance. Which to me makes the U.S. a fake democracy. Just a duopoly, plutocracy.
Either side (gop / dem) throws some bones to their constituents to fight over and they carry on with the agenda.
Biden didn’t even try to change Trump’s border policy, but simply continues it. Biden approved the drilling of Alaskan oil fields.
Again, the Tik Tokker you mentioned has got a point.
This hypocrisy of the left (although Biden on a European scale is still right wing) is why so many people leave it and vote for populists like this Argentinian idiot and now the Dutch one.
What do you think the left could do to appeal more to the undecided?
I think for a long time the left in the US was focused on presidential elections and neglected down ballot races.
If we had overwhelming left control in states we could pass laws mandating proportional allocation of electoral votes which would create a national popular vote by default.
@Forever the US is set up to be a duopoly. My undergraduate degree was in political science and basically the way we vote here you’re only ever going to have two major viable political parties. It’s a feature not a bug.
That said, I think even within the duopoly there’s a good case to be made that it’s not just a choice between two sides of the same coin. I don’t like Joe Biden’s politics or policies. But even I can acknowledge that there’s a huge difference between him in office and Trump.
