Neuralink is mental 
Kinda literal
Not to mention he literally transformed the automotive industry. Before Tesla became a viable success all these car manufacturers were doing Fuck all to get off fossil fuels.
Now theyâre all scrambling to save their asses. As EV is becoming more and more popular and EV infrastructure is exponentially developing. Berlinâs giga factory opened up and is selling out one million vehicles a year. There is more demand than supply for Tesla cars.
Basically this:
Many traditional ICE carmakers are going to be effed in the next decade.
Private companies have a duty to ensure they are not spreading disinformation imo. If prominent people are coming out on twitter (cough trump) saying at the start of the pandemic people can cure covid by taking hydroxyquinoline or drinking bleach than that shit needs to be banned. Freedom of speech dosnt mean you can use a platform to spout complete disinformation.
Same thing in elections freedom of speech shouldnt mean you can make shit up to try and get people to change votes.
Fake news absolutely ravishes through social media because thats what its designed to do, facebook have been complete scumbags they have encouraged it over the years because fake news stories gets more interactions and people using the app more. Unchecked its one of the biggest challenges of the 21st century.
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Disinformation is spread by literally every media outlet. Mainstream media spreads disinformation as well, to shape and form public opinion.
Who is checking what is real news? The BBC? I have got a bridge to sell to you.
Nobody is to be trusted. Too many times they lied and cheat in our faces.
What I sense is that disinformation is simply information you disagree with.
How easy to say something is disinformation because it doesnât align with your ideas or understanding. How easy to stop a debate or a conversation by calling it disinformation. I find this new tendency to be intellectually dishonest, and a sign of weakness and a lack of substance if you canât argue your side without resorting to name calling and labeling information you donât like as disinformation.
We either have freedom of speech or we donât have it.
As I said before Iâm a freedom of speech absolutist. No matter how ridiculous, how offending, it should be able to be said. You can then disagree with it and say itâs stupid as fuck. Fair enough.
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The user verification aspect is a huge change to the platform. Massive contingent of users are anonymous either for good & bad reasons. While weâll see less trolls thereâs a massive number of users that only feel comfortable engaging in any dialogue with the safety net of anonymity. Itâs partly why Twitter (and Reddit tbh) has such a high level of engagement compared to other platforms. Interesting to see how this user base responds.
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Probably wonât happen though.
This is what Elon Musk says too. Do you have any view on the links Sham posted earlier suggesting that Musk may bot be the absolutist he claims to be?
So your point is nobody can be trusted so we should do nothing to stop obvious forms of fake news? Every social media company especially the prominent ones should have teams dedicated to looking at the issue of fake news. I honestly donât even see it as being controversial it should be a standard part of company governance.
Like the example i said trump should not be allowed to come out and say some of the stuff he did about covid at the start to millions of people.
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What I sense is that disinformation is simply information you disagree with.
How easy to say something is disinformation because it doesnât align with your ideas or understanding. How easy to stop a debate or a conversation by calling it disinformation. I find this new tendency to be intellectually dishonest, and a sign of weakness and a lack of substance if you canât argue your side without resorting to name calling and labeling information you donât like as disinformation.
I give an example of disinformation in my post (which was proven to be disinformation) and instead of using that as the basis for your post you ignore that example and create a persona for who you would like to be on the other side of the argument to you.
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I havenât had the time to read them yet. But from what I quickly gather. The top gear libel case is a a case against factually incorrect information? According to Tesla that specific model could do 200 miles and according to top gear 55. If the top gear figure is wrong you can sue for libel. It hasnât got anything to do with freedom of speech. They are free to say it right? And Elon is free to sue them for perceived libel.
I have nothing against top gear claiming this. But he can sue them for it.
As for the other article. If itâs true he silences his employees or otherwise. I am against that.
I am also not Elon Musk. I donât have to agree with everything Elon Musk says or does.
I am so tired of how tribal and binary so many people are. (Not saying you are, just in general many people are.)
I am an absolutist in freedom of speech. We had this discussion before when it was about drawing cartoons of religious figures. And the murderous reaction to it. Itâs wrong.
I am 100% for freedom of speech. You want to draw a cartoon of a prophet. You should be able to do without being killed for it. You want to call Putin a satanic murderous cunt butler. You should be able to do without ending up in the gulag. Want to deny the holocaust, you should be able to do so and I will tell you, you are a moron and I have zero respect for you. The point is for me, we either have freedom of speech or we donât.
Who the fuck is an authority in policing what we can say or canât? Nobody is. Anybody who says otherwise only says so when that authority aligns with their own views and thoughts.
I have arguments with people on the left and on the right. And in the center. Because people are fucking tribal as fuck. And it is annoying.
I like ideas that come from capitalism and I like ideas that come from Marxist-Leninist theories.
I am by far not a perfect person and I can be a hypocrite at times myself, but I am trying the best I can to navigate this stupid world and society and not be peer pressured into binary thinking or tribal association. I am trying to stay true to myself and question everything. Nothing is as simple as some make it sound to be.
Elon is just a guy who has got ideas. Sometimes he is a hypocrite and sometimes he is right on the money.
I prefer Elon over 99% of the billionaires for reasons laid out here before.
Well I disagree.
Why shouldnât he be allowed to say it?
In my opinion he should be allowed to say it. And others can refute it.
And who is the arbiter of what is fake news and what is not? People you support?
None indeed can be trusted as they all peddle their agendas.
I think youâre right that freedom of speech should be monitored but there are already laws that prevent hate speech ind incitement to violence.
The problem I have is with people who want others banned just because they hold different views.
But I certainly agree about social media and the affect itâs having on society.
Also, because itâs a relatively new thing, we donât know how it will affect people.
A lot of kids have grown up with it so donât know any different but because they are obsessed with it, we might see young people with all sorts of mental problems.
It wasnât that long ago that society used to get all our information from newspapers and could only communicate by talking to them face to face.
But now weâre able to speak to anyone, anywhere and get any information we need from a phone so, as great as that is, Iâm sure there are drawbacks as well.
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Doesnât that make you binary?
I see it as much the same in the case of twitter. Donald Trump is free to erroneously say that hydrowhatever cures Covid despite it being factually incorrect information, but thereâs no obligation for twitter to host that speech, nor right for Trump to be able to use that platform.
Would you agree?
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Social Media is just a woke, anti-White, race-baiting echo chamber at this point, where everything from Maths to Milk is racist.
As you could probably guess, theyâre taking it wellâŚ
(he deactivated very shortly afterwardsâŚ)
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I suppose itâs binary in my conviction of being for absolute freedom of speech, yes.
But I am not binary in any capacity when it comes down to political parties. Politics in general. Geopolitical matters. Media trust. And so forth.
There are plenty of arguments to make and give for all sides of a story and no side is 100% the right story and in time it has been proven to be that case for almost anything. There is a lot of political tribalism and binary thinking. America and American politics is the prime example.
These people are a parody of everything they stand for. 
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I agree that both examples are free to say these things, but other parties are free to sue them if they perceive it as libel.
I replied too quickly, as I am in transit. And I didnât pay attention to this part.
The problem with this part is simple.
The argument that twitter is a privately held company and thus can decide what it tolerates and what not is correct from a legal point of view.
However, being (one of) the largest platforms for people to share their thoughts and opinions it transcends that status.
How convenient is it, that there is a first amendment in the USA but when push comes to shove, they can let an American oligarch owning twitter do the bidding in curbing dissent and speech they donât like by saying itâs a privately held company so the first amendment doesnât apply.
I support Musk in this precisely because I think he will allow for far more different opinion and ideas being spread through twitter and he will curb (not by banning but by simply owning the platform and these thin skinned crybabies fleeing it as a consequence) these power hungry narcissistic and hypocrites examples which @persona shared a couple posts above.
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