That’s one thing Cameron had the right idea in. We need more nuclear power, and it’s a shame Fukushima almost killed that.
It’s still safer and cleaner than fossil fuels.
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The concerns around it are valid but It’s a no brainer really.
The time to have expanded our nuclear capacity was the 1990s, it’s now too late and expensive to utilise it to bridge the gap to renewables, thus leaving us with one of the big problems we currently face. And dumb ideas like fracking.
A real unfortunate legacy of the environmental movement of the 70s into the 80s and I say that as an environmentalist
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It’s alright. Ireland doesn’t need all the power we produce. We’ll sell it to ye but we want the money in €€€
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America at it again
Ffs another mass shooting 
At least 15 dead ffs.
Cue generic tweet from geriatric trump about sadiq Khan and knife crime in London 
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It’s like white noise at this point 
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There was another mass shooting in a different state last night too.
Narendra Modi is a dirty rat. That is all.
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Knife crime is bad, but let’s be honest, look at the little cowards who are committing these mass shootings. Don’t look like they could hurt a fly if not for ambushing innocent ppl out just trying to have a good time not expecting a psycho to be strapped to the gills with ammo on a mission to just senselessly kill. Time for the laws here to evolve ffs.
I don’t understand why this has become this generations way of committing suicide. Try to take as many ppl with you? Is it the internet rotting ppls brains and desensitizing them? I mean I known 99.999999% of ppl can distinguish between reality and online reality but it only takes that small percentage to be sick enough to make these things happen. Guns do need to be highly regulated, but it won’t end there. Truck attacks will happen and these sickos will come up with other disgusting ways to hurt innocent ppl. We need to get to the root of the problem.
I think it’s the rate that freaks people out. As you say, there have always been means for anyone to kill a bunch of people anywhere in the world, but people don’t do it much in most places. If you compare the population numbers in western Europe they’re similar enough to the US, and even though there are less guns there are millions of trucks in western Europe, they’ve been available for 50+ years but still you have only had a few of those attacks in total, while in the US the mass shootings are at a rate of more than one per day I think in last few years. And it’s likely not that difficult to get a weapon over here if you really want one either.
I’m convinced gun access does not have the same effect everywhere, there are countries with the same amount of guns per capita as in the US yet you rarely or never get mass shootings in those countries, so while guns unlike maybe a truck or similar have the issue that they require very little impulse control nor do they require you to think because you can kill people so fast with them, you just need to be angry for a minute and you can do insane damage, I don’t think access is the only factor, it is a cultural thing.
I’m reluctant to go too far guessing the sociocultural (googled it) development in other countries I have only visited or maybe not even that, but my mind keeps thinking that good social welfare and security catches troubled people more often at an earlier stage if they’re potential… ‘mass murderers’. Many times people who do these things have been troubled for a long time and found no way to deal with it or ease the pressure of whatever is troubling them, i.e. get help, and it’s not aways as easy as to just “seek help”. But again, wild guesses. Maybe as you say desensitization is the explanation, but I just keep struggling to believe it is films and games, they also exist in countries where people don’t do this thing (almost) at all.
I end up thinking social security networks is doing a lot of the preventive work but that shit costs a lot of money so then the taxes go up and we get into an economic debate instead. Either way it is tragic and the rates of these reports in media probably further desensitizes people. In the end it is maybe a combination of a few things.
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I tend to agree @oompa. For obvious reasons I disagree with civilians owning guns, but that doesn’t explain what’s happening in the U.S. Ownership of a gun doesn’t explain mass killings. It makes it easier, but it doesn’t explain it.
I’d be interested to hear from Americans on here. Looking at maps of mass killings, though you get them everywhere it’s far more prevalent on the east coast, and in the south. So when trying to think about the cultural input that makes this so common, I can’t help but wonder if America is really 2-3 countries forced into one. I’m not sure where I’m going with this, just interested in whether it might be relevant.
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I often think this as well. I suppose the clue’s in the name (united states). It’s always been the case that there’s been a divide- the civil war, the great depression with migration.
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I was having difficulty explaining exactly what I meant by that. I don’t think games or violent shows have an effect, to me it’s more this strange counterculture that has developed on the web in places like 8chan. A safe place where a mentally unstable person can go and share their hateful ideas and indoctrinate others with a like mind. It’s basically cult like. That’s an extreme example but even just the internet and meme culture in general. Jokes are made of these kinds of things because the anonymity of the internet.
Look at the types of ppl who are committing these atrocities. A bunch of kids who were born on 3rd base and thought they hit a triple, or a silver spoon in their mouth if you will. Coddled individuals who have 3rd world problems that have never struggled in their lives for simple necessities. I think that has something to do with it as well due to the disrespectful attitude towards life.
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Fixed that for you
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8Chan is definitely a congregation for the deranged, and I’m sure it doesn’t help people to ween themselves off terrible ideas, but 8Chan isn’t a driver for mass killings. Mass killings predate 8Chan. Somehow that part of the world has developed a very narcissistic, apocalyptic, fearful and paranoid outlook, which is then funnelled through things like social media, which enables bad ideas to exist in a pop culture way, i.e. evidence is YouTube rather than academic research, so evidence ends up being like like Madonna or Whitney Houston. If you’re already apocalyptic, paranoid, and narcissistic, that’s a pretty dangerous mix.
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It’s clearly a cultural issue. Although I do think the rate at which they medicate their kids may be relevant.
But I guess it’s easier to blame video games. That’s a horse that’s been beaten to death.
This is an interesting read on the whole manifestos on 8chan thing
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