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Luckily they’re getting shut down by the looks of things.

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Nothing gets shut down on the internet.

CloudFare have terminated service for 8Chan, it will take some time, but they’ll ultimately find another service provider somehow.

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Dare to imagine what happens on the dark web for example…

Surprisingly not much.

I think it’s a form of toxic narcisism. The individuals life is fucked up and they don’t want to admit it’s their fault, they want to blame:

A) Immigrants/Blacks (if white power)
B) The West if Muslim (Just look at the people who do ISIS attacks, most don’t get into praying etc, they like the allure of being part of a ‘chosen religion or being special’)
C) Blatant Saddist - I’m going hurt as many people as possible because I hurt

So then they believe they are special, it builds up their esteem, they feel like they are a hero and feel good about themselves. Because of the echo chamber the internet provides linking white power/ISIS groups together their biggoted world view isn’t challenged but instead re-inforced.

Essentially they’re wanting to make themselves seem ‘special’ curtesy of attaching their name to something far greater, such as JFK and Lennon’s killers.

This combined with the fact guns are easy as fuck to kill countless people quickly means they don’t have to put themselves at any real risk of physical violence until they are eventually executed with minimal pain. They know they’ll have an easy death. If they actually had to engage in hand to hand combat they’d probably think twice.

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For the second shooter 8chan wasn’t a factor at all; the guy was democratic socialist (very far left), listen to left wing talking points and lived in the bubble.

Both these shooters where on the opposite side of the spectrum, which makes this conversation much more interesting as to what America does next.

Did he fuck hang himself.

@mhappy while he was far left, motivation for the second shooter isn’t really known.

No published manifesto for example, was found

I totally agree with this. The one thing I’d add is to compare it to other countries. I’ve talked about this before re China. Now there they have a much deeper sense of cultural identity and cultural expectation, it can be deeply oppressive and exhausting living like that, and I’m not advocating it as a better way of living, but when you erode that, as we obviously have, and the US obviously has, I think people end up culturally adrift. They no longer intuitively know what they are expected to be or what the boundaries are, and people are not compelled to follow the cultural norms via cultural pressures, and that can manifest in a whole range of behaviours, some positive and some obviously very bad. Because if you think back to say Britain or the US, say post war, before the liberating movements of the 60s, then I just doubt you’d ever have mass murdering kids gunning people down, or youth wanting to stab the fuck out of each other for no reason at all. Again, I’m not advocating for a return to some pre-liberal era, but I think Liberalism, the more expressive it gets, does carry with it big problems of it’s own.

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USA has a rich (lack of better word) history of mass murder and gun violence though, stretching long before the pre war era.

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It will come as a surprise to absolutely nobody that Jeffrey Epstein has been found dead in his jail cell.

He committed suicide. While on suicide watch.

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Silenced because he knew too much about too many powerful people.

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Officials say his death wasn’t remotely suspicious in the slightest.

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Quelle surprise

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That’s not suspicious at all…

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I have absolutely no doubt that it was a ‘suicide’.

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Russian style ‘heart attack’ imo.

Wouldn’t be surprised if the royals are involved, they have form with this sort of thing.

I wonder who wished for this heart attack :thinking:

Every powerful person he was going to name to minimise his sentence :slight_smile:

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